If The Electorate Decide We're Better In Than Out How Would Their Decision Affect Boris's Chances Of...

[sandyRoe]

...ever occupying No 10?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35626621

[Noe-schitt]

HE will be viewed by the EU sceptics in the Tory party as the hero who tried his hardest for brexit and as they are a majority he is hoping it should enhance his chances of leadership

[mikey4444]

No, of course not Sandy ! Boris is playing the long game, as he has done for many years.

[jim360]

Probably depends on the manner of the defeat for the Brexit campaigners. If it's fairly comprehensive, order 60-40 in favour of staying in or more, then it's hard to see how the most prominent leaders of Brexit can claim any sort of credit (at the moment, after all, such a result would mean going backwards). So I'd expect many of the Out-campaigning cabinet ministers to resign in shame, and BoJo would probably end up having to follow them.

Anything particularly close, though, and even in victory I'd expect Cameron's time at No 10 to be under more threat than Boris's.

[mikey4444]

Jim....dave has already told us that his time in Number 10 is limited.

While I don't agree with his views on most things, I cling on to my belief that he is an honourable man.

[ToraToraTora]

well Jimmy Krankie wanted out and it did her no harm did it.

[jim360]

That's true, mikey, but Cameron can resign as the man who triumphantly assured the UK's place in the EU for decades to come in the face of severe opposition from his own party -- or as the man who led the UK out of the EU and into relative international obscurity, not to mention the risk of breaking up the UK itself.

[tonyav]

not to mention the risk of breaking up the UK itself.


But that could have happened any way in Sept 2014, jim.

[ToraToraTora]

6% of the people may have left, hardly break up Tony.

[mikey4444]

Jim....while I am far from a being a Tory supporter (!) I think its dave's job to see us through to the Referendum, and I fully expect him to do so.

But lets not lose sight of the reality here.....dave is a Tory PM, and he is the main supporter of the "In" campaign.

I can see how that must stick in the craws of all those people that voted Tory last May, but that is the situation that we have tonight. His Home Secretary and his Chancellor are also of the same opinion.

[Jackdaw33]

At the last election the Fishes made it clear that their sole (pun) aim was to lock Dave out of Number 10. They failed.

[mikey4444]

Jack..."fishes".....?

[-Talbot-]

and he is the main supporter of the "In" campaign.


How can he be the main supporter when he said his in/out support would hinge on what concessions he was granted?
Many people would stay in the union even if they were told from 2018 we would have to live off pickled cabbage to save the planet.

[jim360]

6% maybe, but that's still about 5 million people and about a third of our total land. And for all that you seem not to care the symbolism of a UK break-up is far from insignificant.

[mikey4444]

Talbot...dave is the PM.....what else does he have to do to be the main supporter of the "In" campaign ?

[Jackdaw33]

Mikey, Salmon(d) and Sturgeon.

[sandyRoe]

Pickled cabbage in such quantities would have deleterious effect on any attempts to halt global warming.

[mikey4444]

Thanks Jack ! ...sometime I need subtitles on Ceefax here on AB !

[-Talbot-]

Well he either had doubts (a true supporter of ''in wouldn't have them) or was just going through the motions to con the public.

[-Talbot-]

Not if we had slaughtered all the cattle, Sandy.

[mikey4444]

Talbot....my main guess here would be that Boris, being the showman that he is, is milking this for all he can get !