Hillsborough Disaster: Fans Unlawfully Killed

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36138337

At last...the truth is out.

Some important points from the above :::

Police failures led to the deaths in the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.

Jurors answered yes to the question about whether any police error caused or contributed to a dangerous situation at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final.

The behaviour of Liverpool fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at the turnstiles.

[dave50]

What happens now?

[mikey4444]

Don't know dave, but the issue of all those Police Officers lying in their statements needs to be addressed. Not telling the truth to a court of law is a very serious offence.

Perhaps New Judge will be on here soon to advise us.

But now I must get ready for that funeral I have to attend at 12:30.

[fiction-factory]

I'm not sure whether we can be sure it's the truth but it was the majority verdict of the jury panel of (I think) 9 jurors. I hope it is the end and there aren't any appeals of any kind. i wonder if there could be any trials though of some of the police involved

[ToraToraTora]

well hang Duckenfield and be done with it, they where always going to go on until they could blame someone other that the root cause. They can now go and hound an ex copper to his death and be happy well done.

[mikey4444]

FF...only some of the verdicts were majority ones...most of them were unanimous. A full account will be published by the Coroner soon I expect.

[mikey4444]

TTT...tasteless comment on this day of all days.

You can take a horse to water, etc, etc.

[ToraToraTora]

what's tasteless? it's the truth they've bee wanting a witch to hunt, now they have one.

[chrissa1]

If that is what happened, TTT the truth must and should, come out. The victim's families deserve to know the truth.

[jackthehat]

TGT is convinced that the Liverpool fans are solely to blame for the tragedy.....and no facts are going to disabuse him of that notion.

I'm glad, for the families, that there is recognition as to what happened on that day.

[ToraToraTora]

no I'm not JTH, plod made mistakes and covered it up, yes that's is well known but the true cause is the many "fans" without tickets forcing their way in. Would this have happened without the ticket less fans? That's the question that we should be asking.

[dave50]

If there are now prosecutions of those involved then fair enough and that will be a suitable punishment. However I hope we don't hear the tasteless call for compensation, no doubt the compensation lawyers are already circling like vultures.

[ToraToraTora]

whitewash, the list of contributory factors does not even include the ticketless "fans"

[Gladeian]

TTT you are so right - a jury of 6 women and 3 men in Warrington (not too far from Liverpool?)
And now the decision they were unlawfully killed. Is this a mandate for the CPS to go after Mr Duckenfield all these years on?
I really think that an Inquest of such importance as this should have been heard by a High Court Judge not by a jury of lay people.

[ToraToraTora]

from the 14 questions: "7. Behaviour of the supporters: Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles? " - No.
you're kidding!

[jackthehat]

What was your impression of events, TGT, you having sat there and listened to 2 years worth of evidence?

[Svejk]

You don't need to listen to 2 years of evidence to know that absolving the fans of any responsibility is PC pandering botox.

[jno]

"you don't have to listen to evidence to know the truth" ... the tale of the pub bore the whole world over.

[fbg40]

Nobody has mentioned the falsified accounts from several serving police officers - is this not something to be concerned about ?
FBG40

[ChillDoubt]

I daresay there'll be a clamouring for prosecutions of the Police as they held public office.
If so, I hope the lack of prosecutions of those involved at Heysel will be revisited.

No one denies the Police had major failings that day. IMHO it was just pure bad luck, lack or loss of control and fear of how fans notoriously behaved in the 80's that brought about the disaster. The families are vindicated, the Police pilloried. Those wronged have rightly had their pound of flesh and fought hard for it. Let it rest now, please.

[Svejk]

That's how I see things, chilli. An unfortunate set of circumstances that led to a tragedy. It's very easy, sat in your armchair with the benefit of hindsight, to say the police should have done this or not done that. Imo, they responded as best they could to the situation they found themselves in. If that makes me 'a pub bore', so be it.