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Hillsborough Disaster: Fans Unlawfully Killed
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -englan d-36138 337
At last...the truth is out.
Some important points from the above :::
Police failures led to the deaths in the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.
Jurors answered yes to the question about whether any police error caused or contributed to a dangerous situation at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final.
The behaviour of Liverpool fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at the turnstiles.
At last...the truth is out.
Some important points from the above :::
Police failures led to the deaths in the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.
Jurors answered yes to the question about whether any police error caused or contributed to a dangerous situation at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final.
The behaviour of Liverpool fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at the turnstiles.
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Retrocop - in reference to the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire's suspension - //Why has this man got to be the scapegoat and fall on his sword.// It is nothing to do with being a 'scapegoat' - it is to do with being head of an organisation which is revealed to have wilfully obstructed the inquest in its investigatio ns, and continued the entire tragic...
08:28 Thu 28th Apr 2016
Minty....the difficulty that the SYP have now, is not to explain how the disaster happened....all that has come out in the wash, via the Inquest.
No, their problem now is to explain why they still continued to lie, less than 2 years ago, while giving evidence at the Inquest....in other words, they continued to lie right up to the end.
Is it any wonder that the Police in general have lost the confidence of a lot of us.
Crocodile tears now is just not good enough. We keep being told that the Police have changed but have they ? Where is the evidence ?
No, their problem now is to explain why they still continued to lie, less than 2 years ago, while giving evidence at the Inquest....in other words, they continued to lie right up to the end.
Is it any wonder that the Police in general have lost the confidence of a lot of us.
Crocodile tears now is just not good enough. We keep being told that the Police have changed but have they ? Where is the evidence ?
Naomi....not at all.
The Police don't seem to have learned anything in the last 2 days, if my latest link is to be believed. Mrs May was extremely honest in her recent comments in the HOC,and so have almost everybody else.
According to you, bringing the Police to account is the same as "Police bashing"........it isn't.
The Police don't seem to have learned anything in the last 2 days, if my latest link is to be believed. Mrs May was extremely honest in her recent comments in the HOC,and so have almost everybody else.
According to you, bringing the Police to account is the same as "Police bashing"........it isn't.
stop police bashing mikey ! you naughty boy
we know they did a good job on the day ( yes dont put your glasses on and exclaim what ? )
because our elders and betters tell us so ....
to wit the south yorkshire retired police association
see here
http:// www.tel egraph. co.uk/n ews/201 6/04/28 /hillsb orough- ex-sout h-yorks hire-of ficers- told-th ey-did- a-good- jo/
I have searched the internet - better people can do than I - and the notice seems to have been taken down before it was sampled/cached ....
we know they did a good job on the day ( yes dont put your glasses on and exclaim what ? )
because our elders and betters tell us so ....
to wit the south yorkshire retired police association
see here
http://
I have searched the internet - better people can do than I - and the notice seems to have been taken down before it was sampled/cached ....
Naomi....you appear not to have studied the verdicts of the Inquest.
Of course, there are other factors, but the Police have had the lion's share of the blame for what happened in April 1989.
What the outcome of the IPCC Report will be, and what the outcome of the criminal investigation, Operation Resolve will uncover, may result in Police Officers being charged with a string of offences, including gross negligence, manslaughter, misconduct in public office, perverting the course of justice and perjury.
So when I, or anybody else mentioned this is the future, it is not "Police bashing"....its commenting on the due process of the law being followed.
Of course, there are other factors, but the Police have had the lion's share of the blame for what happened in April 1989.
What the outcome of the IPCC Report will be, and what the outcome of the criminal investigation, Operation Resolve will uncover, may result in Police Officers being charged with a string of offences, including gross negligence, manslaughter, misconduct in public office, perverting the course of justice and perjury.
So when I, or anybody else mentioned this is the future, it is not "Police bashing"....its commenting on the due process of the law being followed.
MM - accountability
I knew there was a high hurdle to Duckinfield facing charges
( charged before and jury could not reach verdict ... )
http:// www.tel egraph. co.uk/n ews/201 6/04/26 /hillsb orough- verdict s-polic e-chief -david- duckenf ield-am ong-key -f/
so it is near to but notquite autrefois acquit
https:/ /en.wik ipedia. org/wik i/Perem ptory_p lea
I knew there was a high hurdle to Duckinfield facing charges
( charged before and jury could not reach verdict ... )
http://
so it is near to but notquite autrefois acquit
https:/
murraymints, this from Mikey’s link. Mikey, take note.
//Defects at the stadium, including calculations over crowd capacity, contributed to the disaster
There was an error in the safety certification of the Hillsborough stadium
Sheffield Wednesday failed to approve the plans for dedicated turnstiles for each pen
There was inadequate signage at the club and misleading information on match tickets
Club officials should have requested a delay in kick off as they were aware of a huge number of fans outside shortly before the game was due to start.//
The police were not wholly culpable.
//Defects at the stadium, including calculations over crowd capacity, contributed to the disaster
There was an error in the safety certification of the Hillsborough stadium
Sheffield Wednesday failed to approve the plans for dedicated turnstiles for each pen
There was inadequate signage at the club and misleading information on match tickets
Club officials should have requested a delay in kick off as they were aware of a huge number of fans outside shortly before the game was due to start.//
The police were not wholly culpable.
Mikey
//The tragedy resulted in all English football clubs being placed under an indefinite ban by UEFA from all European competitions (lifted in 1990–91), with Liverpool being excluded for an additional three years, later reduced to one,[4] and fourteen Liverpool fans found guilty of manslaughter and each sentenced to three years' imprisonment. The disaster was later described as "the darkest hour in the history of the UEFA competitions".[5]//
//Crocodile tears now is just not good enough. We keep being told that the Police have changed but have they ? Where is the evidence ?//
It would seem that the police are not the only ones who hadn't changed Mikey. The fact that it involves the same English football club twice does cast some relevance on the worst football crowd disasters in history. Ignore that fact if you will and try to convince me that some of the supporters were not contributors to this tragedy .Go off on your tangents about Freemasonry but your blatant bigotry is obvious throughout your OP.
I do not support the Perjury,lies and cover up by the police but the total blame does not lay on their doorstep and you will not admit it.
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