Did The Police Need To Apologise?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3582287/Suicide-bomber-blows-Britain-s-second-biggest-shopping-mall-chilling-night-anti-terror-training-exercise-featuring-thousands-volunteers-playing-victims.html

/// Manchester University Diversity Officer Ilyas Nagdee posted: 'Stupid decision by @gmpolice to decide attackers should be seen as Muslim. Maybe that's why Islamophobias gone up 300% in the UK.' ///

Pleased to note however that they took the health and safety of the victims very seriously, noticing the eye protection glasses.

[Mamyalynne]

I'll tell you what disturbs me, sweeping statements like this...

//They just don't understand do they?//


Get what? That many of our Emergency Services and Armed Forces Personnel suffer because of their work?

That's quite a judgement to make when you don't know other peoples backgrounds.

Of course we know yours because you tell us daily.

[Peter Pedant]

blimey can we get back to discussing whether the very words should have been used or not
and stop whining endlessly about who has been and who has not been suspended ?

confusing I know

I thought it was a good way of saying " the performance starts "

[Mamyalynne]

Peter , yes they could have replaced those words with...

" Die,die,die" or similar - the exercise would still have fulfilled its purpose.

[shoota]

So now we have stuttering German?

[Jackdaw33]

OK then, PP. To answer your question, Yes and No. Those words would give the police a split second to open fire. On the other hand, had there been ordinary members of the public on the scene, then No, as it would have created panic.

[ummmm]

Retro....I have never at any point said I agree with everything Andy says, because I don't. It's the group ganging up that has become tedious.

[douglas9401]

"It's the group ganging up that has become tedious."

Unless it's the 'right' group, then it's just consensus, innit.

[naomi24]

ummmm, I don't belong to a group - but nevertheless I agree with much of the criticism.

[ummmm]

Innit, yeah...

Threads become about Andy and nothing about the OP.

To answer the OP, maybe it wasn't the best thing to shout out but I don't see why they should apologise.

[douglas9401]

Threads don't 'become' about Andy, they become submerged in typographical diarrhoea, the really painful kind with bits sticking out of it.

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[B00]

I'm assuming it was shouted to make the sitution as real as possible, and sadly, the threat by muslim extremists is very real indeed- why the task was undertaken in the first place.

No the apology shouldn't have been issued and im frankly slightly ashamed that it was.

As for the other 'issue' that some folk seem determined to keep alive, I can't even be bothered to comment (well, apart from this paragraph) it's too ruddy boring to even read never mind voice an opinion on.

[TWR]

No, what do they expect IS / Terrorist's to do, send everyone a letter.

[ummmm]

Doug...you have a way with words ;-)

[Peter Pedant]

I have to say that I regard "allahu akbar" as heart sink words - they are more likely to be the last words I hear than - "here is the news" or "this is louise minchin with the BBC news"

and certainly would act as a trigger -
[ altho I am not sure what - just hitting the floor means that you might be waiting to be shot a la Bataclan ]

The fella on the eurostar ( ? american marine - he has since been stabbed in a californian bar ) just heard an AK 47 being cocked and didnt wait for anything else by choice

[andy-hughes]

Hypognosis - //@retrocop

// in a phsycie ward for a year being fed uppers for the rest of my life to level my mind. //

Did this actually happen to a colleague (out of the same incidents), or something? You sound like you are speaking from experience, there. //

No, retrocop is not referring to a colleague - he is having a dig at me because I was not 'man enough' to avoid mental illness which saw me in a 'psychie' ward for a period of time, and I do now take medication, but I am not fed 'uppers'.

Make of that what you will.

[ummmm]

And not for the first time!!!!

[dunnitall]

AH, that's not how I read retrocop's post on that, what am I missing then?

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //. I just thank myself lucky that I rose to the occasion and was man enough not to end up in a phsycie ward for a year being fed uppers for the rest of my life to level my mind. I suppose I can count myself the lucky one can't I ? //

Not for the first time, you reveal your true colours in jibing at mental illness, in this case, mine.

It says much about you that you think avoiding mental illness and treatment is a measure of masculinity, I am not sure where that logic comes from, maybe they teach it at Hendon.

But I will say this.

Your career path was consciously chosen, and your experiences were a result of that.

My illness was not consciously chosen, and my lifetime of medication is not something I wish for, but I accept, and do not see as some sort of badge of honour that gives me an opinion of the worth of others to live or die.

//I suppose I can count myself the lucky one can't I ? //

Seriously? If I was strapped to a bed in a 'psychie' ward being fed Tramadol intravenously for the rest of my days, I would still think myself a luckier man than you - such bitterness as drives you to sink so low is something I would not wish to live with.

[Peter Pedant]

andie - you arent obliged to give confidential details unless you wish to

uppers are amphetamines -
and havent been used in psych for around 50 y

so anyone reading retro's script would be aware it was written from the usual point of ignorance.

[andy-hughes]

dunnitall - //AH, that's not how I read retrocop's post on that, what am I missing then? //

The reference to taking medication to 'level my mind' is a direct quote from a response I made to someone discussing anti-depressant mediation - of which I have experience, so I mention it when it is appropriate.

retrocop seems to think it shows weakness - which is his opinion - but you can see that his dig was directly aimed at me personally, based on my condition.