Is This Photo Amazing Or Whats Your Take On It?

[piggynose]

well what do you think? Media URL: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36759711
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[anneasquith]

I have and will continue to give my view of the photograph, not before/after it was taken .(since that was the question).

[Gromit]

naomi,

I am talking about THE PICTURE.

Not the video.
Not the Facebook Blog.
Not the news reports.
Not 'black Lives Matter'.
Not Baton Rouge Police Department.

The bloody picture.

[naomi24]

Gromit, Ah, right. You’re extolling the aesthetically pleasing aspects of the picture. It must have been you saying things like, “We can argue, that that is not the case in every victim of a police shooting”, that confused me – and the placement of this item in News rather than in Arts & Literature. Do carry on. I’ll go elsewhere to talk about News.

[Hypognosis]

Re: Page 3 of this thread
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1502054-3.html

and the Talbot/jno exchange, I'm not sure jno's point about proportionally was acknowledged fully.

Even the Grauniad's statistics page didn't address this

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-No2377MRFYU/VW9pszU2b0I/AAAAAAAAg5Q/hhWKOKg8DCw/s1600/guardian-the_counted-1018.jpg

choosing absolute numbers (which serves Talbot's stance) in preference to proprtional ones, which supports the #BLM side of things.

The Facebook post linked to was very well written and bang on the money: if it's Baltimore, with a BME majority population, it will "ALWAYS be more" whether it is black on black killings or killings by cops. Clustering of populations of minority groups is a fact which should be acknowledged. Nobody likes to move that far from their close family and/or social network. "The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree".

But if they're only 13% (say) of the population then, proportionately, they shouldn't be suffering nearly half as many deaths as whites. But, as per the Facebook post, tracking like-for-like arrest situations, suspect behaviours and outcomes is a complex piece of analysis, beyond a single individual's capacity to work out in their head. Computers might manage the task but who do you trust to do the programming?

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

/// SP, retrocop asks “Did you actually read Talbot's link?” Did you? ///

I also did at 11.24, still waiting for an answer.

[retrocop]

I look at the picture and I read some blurred, emotive,over dramatic drivel being spouted by the ignorant.
(a)Storm trooper? . They are police officers wearing suitable protective clothing to face potential bricks, bottles or other lethal missiles. They are facing a potential hostile mob. I call that brave. Of course some on here have never done public service and worn a uniform except a woggle and a scarf!

(b) Heavily armed?? Really?? They are carrying no more than standard sidearm but don't let your pathetic exaggeration distort the facts.
If you want to be less dramatic and more accurate they could be described as heavily armoured. See (a) above for the necessity re protection. They have already seen 5 of their own killed and others injured whilst performing their duty at a black march!!

[Mamyalynne]

It will be interesting to see what views Piggynose has of both the photograph and of course the ensuing links and discussion too.

[Gromit]

// I’ll go elsewhere to talk about News. //

If only that were a promise.

[anneasquith]

Still a great picture rc. :-)

[piggynose]

sorry if i upset a few, i wasn't expecting some negative reactions from a few of you. But we have to have as many views as possible to make AB work.
i didnt even think about the negative side, just that it was a lovely photo. full stop.

[Gromit]

// You’ve lost me. //

// that confused me //

That seems to be your permanent state lately.

[Mamyalynne]

I don't think there's any need to be sorry Piggy, it's inevitable people will have different views.

The sad part is that others love to challenge the difference - it did lead to some interesting debate on the whole.

[albaqwerty]

away from all the politics, it's a nice photo.

Isn't the art of photography a mixture of skill and luck to take an amazing picture and share it?

[anneasquith]

I think so alba, right place right time,

[jackthehat]

Rightly, or wrongly, this striking photograph will become an iconic image of these troubled times in America's history.

People from both sides will continue to interpret it according to their own particular viewpoint .

[jambutty]

This pic does absolutely nothing for me - sorry.

[-Talbot-]

Here's another very interesting article for some posters to not bother reading.

I will post the main point for the lazy

''when it comes to the most lethal form of force - police shootings - the study finds no racial bias''


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-11/harvard-study-finds-no-racial-bias-police-shootings

[-Talbot-]

Of course many will decry this study as the work of an Uncle Tom.

[Mamyalynne]

So you are judging others before we have had time to read it ?