Well I Think We Have Had Our Fair Share Of Anti-Trump Threads Etc, So For A Change Lets Look At His Opposition?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3176621/Lies-cover-ups-corruption-Linda-Tripp-West-Wing-assistant-outed-Monica-Lewinsky-s-sexual-liaison-Bill-Clinton-talks-time-Hillary-tells-never-President.html

[jackthehat]

Again, I don't envy the American electorate their choice of candidates on Election day...

[Mamyalynne]

Same sentiments as I posted on the other thread - that is exactly as Jack says.

[mushroom25]

the only hope for the USA and, QED, the rest of us is a late change to the constitution to allow Obama to serve a 3rd term.....

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// Again, I don't envy the American electorate their choice of candidates on Election day... ///

Me and you both JTH, but I dislike the constant flack Trump is showered with, so I thought it only right to level the playing field.

[anotheoldgit]

mushroom25

In actual fact mushroom, I think it is wrong to criticise another countries politics, and as proven over the referendum, we don't take kindly for other countries to criticise ours.

[Gromit]

AOG,
Bill Clinton is not standing for President, Hillary is.

If we are talking suitability of spouses, how is the Daily Mail's libel prosecution going for calling Mrs Trump a prostitute?

[mushroom25]

//I think it is wrong to criticise another countries politics//

in general i'd agree. but when america sneezes we all catch cold. whatever the outcome of the election, it will affect us.

[ummmm]

Did they actually call her a prostitute? I thought they called her an Escort....

[ichkeria]

So you'd pick Trump because he would not be able to do the things he's said he would? I happen to agree that he would not, but I'm a bit baffled by the idea that Clinton would start WW3. Not even Trump is going to do that. He'd just make the USA a laughing stock.

[ichkeria]

She is absolutely right on all counts there.
There is worrying evidence that Russia has tried to interfere with this election. That alone should set alarm bells ringing. Russia is in no state to provoke any sort of world conflict, as I have said before. They would be quite happy to go back to the state during the cold war, where two "superpowers" had their spheres of influence. Trump offers the best hope of that. he would just snarl at Putin at a distance. Clinton wants proactively to stand up for the people Putin threatens closer to home.

[ichkeria]

The only sense in which the US has contributed to "tensions" with Russia is because they have preferred not to take a back seat while Russia has invaded and destabilised its neighbours.
As for promoting regime change in Syria, that is just nonsense. Assad, before he started blowing up his own people, was the autocratic ruler of a comparatively stable country. If anyone would have wished to change that they would need their heads examined. The "regime change" in Syria and Libya only came about after the locals decided to start it. In any case it was Europe which took the lead in Libya, and did not make too good a fist of it, as Obama was not slow to point out.

[Gromit]

Divebuddy,
I noticed you made some edits to Michael Sainato's oped.

// Hillary Clinton's presidency will continue the unending war Bill Clinton's presidency set the stage for in the 1990s. //

Which was nothing compared to George Bush's total war in the noughts, in Iraq and Afghanistan.

// During the Kosovo Conflict, Bill Clinton circumvented the House of Representatives' vote against him taking military action, and ordered bombing missions anyway. //

Which is the same trick David Cameron pulled. Parliament voted against attacking Assad, but the UK has been doing that regardless.

// In 1998, he signed the Iraq Liberation Act, making it official US policy to support regime change in Iraq, laying the foundations for the Iraq War in 2003, which Hillary Clinton voted for in the Senate. //

The Republican President (Bush) took the US into Iraq, but because Hillary voted for it, it is evidence that she should not be President? Surely the Iraq war is more damning on the Republicans, and proof that they cannot be trusted in a world with a resurgent Russia?

[ichkeria]

Why not mention Russia? It's relevant.
I notice that the latest gems come from globalreseach.ca.
It seems unlikely that the US would attack Iran, given that the current administration, of which Clinton as a key part, has come under huge criticism for their rapprochments with that country. I happen to think that they were right to do so, although there are undoubted risks.

What do you actually think? Your last two posts have just been verbatim cut and paste from various websites.

[ichkeria]

Winston Churchill was laughed at in his early career for banging on constantly about Germany. Well, to misquote a certain MEP recently, they weren't laughing a few years later :-) So beware of the commentators who make fun of or criticise so called "hawks" like Clinton.

[Gromit]

Divebuddy,
The quote: "If I am President, we will attack Iran, we would be able to totally obliterate them. "

Has also suffered from bad editing. She was asked what she woyld do if she were President and Iran attacked Israel? It was a hypothetical question, and she gave an hypothetical answer. It is an answer I imagine EVERY US President would give.