Could Hard Brexit Cost The Next Election Or Is This Just The Latest Tactic From The S G B?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38199310
Those that voted leave didn't vote for a watered down EU pseudo membership, they wanted out, right out.

[-Talbot-]

Not while Corbyn is the alternative.

[Jackdaw33]

By the time of the next election we should be out of the EU anyway so it won't matter a tinker's cuss.

[Peter Pedant]

// Those that voted leave didn't vote for a watered down EU pseudo membership, they wanted out, right out.//

yeah innit !

Like the result of the Richmond by-election proves it
( Lib demz one : crazy UKIP Brexiters lost )

[EDDIE51]

The huge majority of 'Leave' voters did not think the way you do TTT. They expected to stay in the European Customs Union and the EEA but out of the EU.
They did NOT vote for the UK to become the European version of North Korea!
Do you actually realise what being out of the European Customs Union actually means in reality ? It is a bit more than your '' Ok, so BMW's And Merc's are going to cost a bit more, get over it!''
Various news paper polls since the referendum have shown that between 35 & 76% of 'Leave' voters have now changed their mind. Even if that is 10x more than the real figure it still means the majority now want to stay in the EU!

[TheChair]

TTT is like someone who decided to teach the neighbours a lesson by burning his own house down, and now wants to prevent the fire brigade from putting out the fire.

[EDDIE51]

Talbot, as has just been shown by the Richmond election it is not a Labour victory that is the possibility, it is the Lib Dems getting 10 to 20 more seats than they have now. The Lib Dems are totally for 'Remain' and determined to overturn 'Brexit', getting even 10 or 20 more seats will allow them to do it!

[Zacs-Master]

Then you voted under a misapprehension Tora et al. Maybe you should have educated yourself?

[ToraToraTora]

PP: that area had 35%/65% for remain. The bye election vote went 52%/48% remain so if it was really a remain v brexit vote, remain lost 13 percentage points to brexit. Hardly a ringing endorsement for remain is it?

[ToraToraTora]

keep spouting that BS eddie, you'll start to believe it yourself eventually. Brexit won because people have had enough of EU tyranny, end of.

[Zacs-Master]

Hardly a ringing endorsement of the IQ of the nation either. Choosing to believe the unfounded promises of our Govt's representatives which were, if one did a little research, clearly undeliverable, is very worrying.

[ToraToraTora]

Brexit won because even the remainiacs could not actually come up with any reasons the EU was good. All they had was project fear and Liberal sneering. Even now I can't get a remainiac to explain what is good about the EU.

[Zacs-Master]

Well let me have a go. The EU is a bureaucratic nightmare, but, Britain, despite that, seems to be doing very well (as you pointed out yourself). Pulling out is proving to be a legal and financial minefield which anyone who did some research could see.

[ToraToraTora]

...I thought you were going to explain what is good about the EU and why you think we should remain.

[ichkeria]

Apparently Sarah Olney the new Lib Dem MP walked out of a radio interview when 'informed' that the Remain campaign had insisted that Brexit meant leaving the single market also. But I don't recall ever during the campaign that it was ever that clear cut. Each side presented worst case and best case scenarios but one of the key arguments against leaving was the nightmare that would ever be the process. In fact, no one in the Remain side ever said it would be easy. A hard Brexit will be a disaster and the electorate WILL punish whoever delivers it.

[Zacs-Master]

I did explain why we should remain. Newsflash Tora.....many of those who voted remain think the EU is a bureaucratic nightmare (I think I already said that.....oh look, I did) so stop thinking we all love it. We don't. But,some of us had the self educated foresight to see that pulling out would be a nightmare.

[ToraToraTora]

you mean you feared the process not the intention? So the position of many on the remian side was, we don't like it much either but it will prove difficult to leave! PMSL

[fiction-factory]

I think Z-M has given his reason why we should remain, TTT: " Britain ...seems to be doing very well... Pulling out is proving to be a legal and financial minefield which anyone who did some research could see.".On balance remainers think it's worth staying. I voted remain because I felt that whilst the EU had huge faults pulling out would be painful, complex,disruptive, a diversion and time consuming for maybe 10 years.
I still think that's the case but given the vote was (albeit narrowly) to Leave I think we have to live with our decision and get on with it. Prolonging things will just make matters even worse

[fiction-factory]

Okay, 5 minutes too late- ZM has beaten me to it.
For some reason it takes me 5 minutes to type answers on here as AB keeps freezing

[Zacs-Master]

Not sure why you've wet yourself but.....if it's not true that it is proving to be a difficult process, why are you posting so many questions about it?

[ToraToraTora]

FF, you need an unmentionable software addon.