Good For Her!

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4028108/I-don-t-want-sit-screaming-baby-Mother-carrying-infant-denied-class-seat-passengers-angry-hasn-t-paid-right.html

Who does she think she is? Having a baby is not a modern innovation it has been going on for centuries.
If I had bought a first class ticket I would not have been best please to sit next to a woman with a screaming baby even if she HAD bought a first class ticket and would have been infuriated to learn that she HADN'T purchased the appropriate ticket.

It was quite correct that she should have been......evicted.

[naomi24]

jno, if the mother had been in possession of a first class ticket there would have been no cause for complaint. On the other hand, the train company didn't confirm what that one passenger claimed.

[donny48]

Would it then be right if I was a first class passenger to give the mother my seat but before doing so make sure I was sat next to the complaining woman.

[anneasquith]

I hope this elderly ladies family,friends,neighbours, fellow parishioners?, view this video. The different opinions on this thread, surprise !me not. So predictable .

[Gromit]

The batty old harridan is entitle to a partial refund.

// Southern has said that all first class accommodation will be available to standard ticket holders on:

Southern
Gatwick Express
Thameslink (between Brighton and London)
First class ticket holders are entitled to a refund for the difference between first and standard class fares on the affected dates. A refund form is available //

Perhaps she didn't want an smelly Asian to sit next to her.

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talbot.

'Another passenger points out that at the last station 'that because of Southern problems you can travel in any part of the train''

Not very conclusive evidence.........."another passenger"



Why didn't the snooty battle axe contest it?

[anneasquith]

Gromit. Perhaps you have voiced what some of us were thinking ?

[gness]

Indeed, Anne.....imagine switching on and seeing your mother behaving in public like the eldery woman did....Oh you'd cringe...... :-(

[RandyMarsh]

She did not need a first class ticket to sit there, it says so in the article.

[donny48]

The man who gave up his seat fully deserved the round of applause that he reportedly received. My boys were brought up to do this and they still do.

[Gromit]

Southern are no doubt reluctant to advertise that First Class accommodation is available to ALL ticket holders, because people would not buy First Class tickets if it was widely known.
Southern also did not advertise the fact that the old bag was entitled to a refund when the Mail contacted them.

[andy-hughes]

I am utterly amazed that we are debating this, in some cases, with utterly undeserved ferocity.

A woman we don't know caused a fuss with another woman we don't know on a train we don't travel on.

An opinion on the big picture, fine, but the willingness endlessly to drill down into the finer points of Southern Rail's fare and passenger policy is frankly baffling!

I repeat - the inbuilt snobbery of the rail ticket 'class' system brings out the very worst in people who care about such redundant nonsense.

The bottom line is, a woman with a baby needed a seat on a crowded train - I think no-one really needs to look further than that, including the reprehensible snob who rowed with her about it.

[Bazile]

//Perhaps she didn't want an smelly Asian to sit next to her.//

I didn't even notice that she was an asian .

I agree that perhaps this was more that the objector did not want to sit next to a person of that ethnicity , more than anything else .
How did she know in the first instance that she did not have a first class ticket ?

[andy-hughes]

Bazile - Why is it her business? Why should she care? Why make an issue?

If you can't stand to interact with other people - which is a pre-requisite of travelling on public transport, hire a limousine!

[Berniecuddles2]

andy-hughes
"I am utterly amazed that we are debating this, in some cases, with utterly undeserved ferocity!.
andy you have answered 18 times on this thread ,,,you make me laugh...thx

[Gromit]

Not sure this is about the inbuilt snobbery of the rail ticket 'class' system.

A decent person would automatically move their belongings for a parent with a baby, regardless.

I see very ignorant people using the seat next to them for their belongings, on trains that are full and people are having to stand up. I have also seen their annoyance when I tell them to shift it so I can sit down.

Nothing to do with 'class'. Some people are just plain selfish.

[zebo]

If you start to sit on their bags, they move them pretty sharpish.

[Mamyalynne]

Lucky escape for Mother and child, didn't have to sit next to a grouch.

Well done to the kind Gentleman.

[andy-hughes]

Berniecuddles - //andy-hughes
"I am utterly amazed that we are debating this, in some cases, with utterly undeserved ferocity!.
andy you have answered 18 times on this thread ,,,you make me laugh...thx //

Perhaps I should have been clearer - my query is not that we are debating the morality of the issue - which is what all my posts have been about (thank you for counting them for me, so I don't have to!) - but that we are discussing the finer points of ticketing and passenger policy.

I see the issue as very simple indeed - should a woman with a baby be able to sit down on a train? Yes.

Does it affect anyone else if she has or has not paid for the fare for the carriage she is in? No.

That really is all this should be about.

[Gromit]

Priority seats are for the elderly, parents with babies and disabled people. You should not really choose a priority seat if you do not wish to sit next to a baby because that seat is for people with babies.

[ichkeria]

"A decent person would automatically move their belongings for a parent with a baby, regardless.
I see very ignorant people using the seat next to them for their belongings, on trains that are full and people are having to stand up. I have also seen their annoyance when I tell them to shift it so I can sit down.
Nothing to do with 'class'. Some people are just plain selfish. "

Yep, precisely