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Can Anyone Accuse Our Katie Of Lying, Here?
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"How many MORE atrocities before our leaders stop lying to us and admit that, thanks to their immigration policies, being mowed down while doing your Christmas shopping is simply the new normal?
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Hmmm. It's just mouthy populist opinion. When you see things like this it makes you a bit more circumspect about criticising aspects of the press in authoritarian countries. It isn't, it would seem, just an occasional phenomenom, but a steady stream of this tripe.
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Hmmm. It's just mouthy populist opinion. When you see things like this it makes you a bit more circumspect about criticising aspects of the press in authoritarian countries. It isn't, it would seem, just an occasional phenomenom, but a steady stream of this tripe.
Is this "tripe"?
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Khandro - if Ms. Hopkins wanted to deliver facts, she would write for a broadsheet where facts are expected and understood.
But she prefers to peddle her inflammatory nonsense on the Mail website where she can preach to the converted.
I do not dispute the facts as she has stated them - but in terms of her opinions, which pad out the piece to three times the length it would be without them - they are just that - her opinions, and they carry no weight with me, or it seems with ichkeria.
That's the difference and also the problem with facts and opinions, people cannot gainsay or ignore the first, but they are perfectly at liberty to scoff at the second, which is the response it deserves.
But she prefers to peddle her inflammatory nonsense on the Mail website where she can preach to the converted.
I do not dispute the facts as she has stated them - but in terms of her opinions, which pad out the piece to three times the length it would be without them - they are just that - her opinions, and they carry no weight with me, or it seems with ichkeria.
That's the difference and also the problem with facts and opinions, people cannot gainsay or ignore the first, but they are perfectly at liberty to scoff at the second, which is the response it deserves.
Khandro - //Is this "tripe"? //
Well of course not, but it is from a respected and publically funded news source, so you would not expect it to be tripe.
The same cannot be said for one individual who is highly paid to voice trenchant provocative opinions.
The comparison between the two is .... oh, hang on, there isn't one.
Well of course not, but it is from a respected and publically funded news source, so you would not expect it to be tripe.
The same cannot be said for one individual who is highly paid to voice trenchant provocative opinions.
The comparison between the two is .... oh, hang on, there isn't one.
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/// Khandro - if Ms. Hopkins wanted to deliver facts, she would write for a broadsheet where facts are expected and understood. ///
Which one would you suggest?
/// But she prefers to peddle her inflammatory nonsense on the Mail website where she can preach to the converted. ///
No keep those with open minds informed of matters that some would rather see censored.
/// I do not dispute the facts as she has stated them - but in terms of her opinions, which pad out the piece to three times the length it would be without them - they are just that - her opinions, and they carry no weight with me, or it seems with ichkeria. ///
Well that is two of you at least, and your opinions don't seem to carry any weight at all.
One could also state the same words against your posts only your opinions generally beat Katie's miserable "three times the length it would be without them".
/// That's the difference and also the problem with facts and opinions, people cannot gainsay or ignore the first, but they are perfectly at liberty to scoff at the second, which is the response it deserves. ///
In your slanted opinion.
/// Khandro - if Ms. Hopkins wanted to deliver facts, she would write for a broadsheet where facts are expected and understood. ///
Which one would you suggest?
/// But she prefers to peddle her inflammatory nonsense on the Mail website where she can preach to the converted. ///
No keep those with open minds informed of matters that some would rather see censored.
/// I do not dispute the facts as she has stated them - but in terms of her opinions, which pad out the piece to three times the length it would be without them - they are just that - her opinions, and they carry no weight with me, or it seems with ichkeria. ///
Well that is two of you at least, and your opinions don't seem to carry any weight at all.
One could also state the same words against your posts only your opinions generally beat Katie's miserable "three times the length it would be without them".
/// That's the difference and also the problem with facts and opinions, people cannot gainsay or ignore the first, but they are perfectly at liberty to scoff at the second, which is the response it deserves. ///
In your slanted opinion.
// being mowed down while doing your Christmas shopping is simply the new normal //
That is a pretty stupid thing to say. It is like saying after a plane crash that hitting a mountain during a flight "is the new normal".
Of course it isn't, it is very rare. But exploiting peoples' fears is the normal for shock journos.
That is a pretty stupid thing to say. It is like saying after a plane crash that hitting a mountain during a flight "is the new normal".
Of course it isn't, it is very rare. But exploiting peoples' fears is the normal for shock journos.
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