Can Anyone Accuse Our Katie Of Lying, Here?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4052498/KATIE-HOPKINS-atrocities-leaders-stop-lying-admit-thanks-immigration-policies-mowed-doing-Christmas-shopping-simply-new-normal.html

[jno]

so what's your reason for doing so, hereIam? Or are we living in a post-evidence age now...

[Khandro]

Gromit;// being mowed down while doing your Christmas shopping is simply the new normal //

That is a pretty stupid thing to say. It is like saying after a plane crash that hitting a mountain during a flight "is the new normal". //

What she is saying is the fear of it is becoming normal, hence every Christmas market in Europe now needs extra safeguards.

Your analogy with a plane crash is nonsense, do the maths.

[hereIam]

I don't have to give YOU a reason for anything I say jno. I like and agree with Katie Hopkins and that's good enough for me.

[Gromit]

Politicians make decisions based on acceptable probabilities.

They do not ban immigrants on the low probabilty that they might run people over.
1,713 were killed in the UK by cars last year. Far greater than any terrorist could hope kill in an attack. If it was the job of politicians to eliminate all risks from our lives, motor transport would have been banned years ago.

[ichkeria]

"What she is saying is the fear of it is becoming normal, hence every Christmas market in Europe now needs extra safeguards.
"

No she isn't - it is pretty clear what she is saying (what she is thinking, God alone knows)
Just to re-quote:
"How many MORE atrocities before our leaders stop lying to us and admit that, thanks to their immigration policies, being mowed down while doing your Christmas shopping is simply the new normal?"

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// being mowed down while shopping is normal? Really? ///

It was for those in Berlin and have you any proof whatsoever that it could not be a possibility here in the UK?

[Gromit]

Khandro
She is not saying that at all. she is not saying the fear is normal, she is saying the crime is normal.

// How many MORE atrocities before our leaders stop lying to us and admit that, thanks to their immigration policies, being mowed down while doing your Christmas shopping is simply the new normal? //

She is saying the Government is lying to us by prentending that being run over while christmas shopping is not an everyday occurance. Utter nonsense of course, but some people will believe anything.

[anotheoldgit]

Answerprancer

Please do not call me Mr Git.

I was once taklen to task for just calling a fellow ABer by his surname, so I can't understand why you have not been taken to task also.

[ichkeria]

Further to that, if enough people DO start believing that it is normal to be run down when out Christmas shopping then it will in some part because of articles like this.

[whiskeryron]

Why oh why do some of you persist in running down a person who is telling the truth to a nation that will not accept the fact that the big experiment has failed ? OPEN BORDER POLICY DOES NOT WORK. Too late now of course, the die is cast, we haven't a clue how many of those that hate us & our way of life have insidiously slipped in to fester amongst us. Shame on you Merkel & all all you do gooders who have helped to endanger the very structure of our glorious heritage.

[ichkeria]

"etc. is now a real possibility. "

No, she says "the normal"
I am sure she doesn't actually believe that, as presumably she is not absolutely dumb, but language and reason are subservient to the exigencies of having a good ould rant :-)

[ichkeria]

Well why does she not write a proper article on the subject whiskery instead of ranting?

[anotheoldgit]

ichkeria

It's called facing the facts, and not burying one's head in the sand, hoping it will all go away.

[Answerprancer]

It's a friendly shortening of your given name! You can call me Prancer if you like :-)

[ichkeria]

"Ichy, What, you mean if some of the media report on lorries mowing down people who are visiting a German market, it might put some people off visiting a German market. Hmmm. "

???,
No: I mean what I said :-)

[Gromit]

A journalist is precise with words.

She says it is normal. Not that it is a fear, or a possibility.

She is using the word 'normal' to tell people who are scared, that they are right to be scared. She is exploiting their fear in a very cynical way.
We have not yet had an atrocity like the one in Cannes and Berlin.
No one has died in the UK from this type of incident, so it is ludicrous to say it is normal.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// She is saying the Government is lying to us by prentending that being run over while christmas shopping is not an everyday occurance. ///

She is not saying that at all what she actually said was

"How many MORE atrocities before our leaders stop lying to us and admit that, thanks to their immigration policies, being mowed down while doing your Christmas shopping is simply the new normal"?

THE NEW NORMAL not an EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE.

[Gromit]

Normal means everyday. I don't see the difference.