If A Christian Couple Can Be Fined For Refusing To Sell Something They Believe Is Against Their Religion Then Why No Action Against This Person?

[youngmafbog]

OK, so IMHO religion is the root of most evil but lets forget that bit because what I am trying to understand is why there seems to be one rule for one and another for a certain other religion we all have to bend ovcer backwards to accommodate?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4070144/Muslim-Tesco-cashier-refuses-sell-bottle-wine-shopper-against-religion.html

[fiction-factory]

>I'm pretty certain I know it better than you or I do

To early in the morning. I meant to type "I'm pretty certain THEY know it better than you or I do"

[Islay]

//An attention seeking hound plays the religion card\\

I would of said the bloke running to the newspapers because it took him a couple of extra minutes to get his bottle of plonk is the attention seeking hound!!!

[Togo]

//Why didn't he use the self scanner ?//

Do read the links..... he was using the "customer service" kiosk because he was purchasing a video game disc, which are kept there for security reasons.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory , //it's [diversity] here to stay as many employers see the many benefits//

What are the ‘many’ benefits – and what is the benefit of employing someone who won’t do the job? It’s hardly surprising that some employers are reluctant to employ Muslims but are happy to employ other people who are ‘foreign’ or ‘brown’. No one should be inconvenienced by someone else’s beliefs – including other members of staff.

[Togo]

//I would of said the bloke//

Should read....... I would have the gentleman

[Zacs-Master]

It wasn't a case of her not wanting to do her job. She had been employed in the full knowledge that she did not wish to handle alcohol and had been located in a position where this was unlikely. Tesco are the ones at fault for having a ridiculously all encompassing HR policy and for not making 100% sure they could accommodate her request.

[andy-hughes]

Togo - ////The issue here is that Tesco knew the situation, wanted to employ the girl, were happy to accommodate her//

Ahh but would they be "happy" to employ a baker who was liable to object to a "celebrate same sex marriage" cake if his Christian beliefs were to be compromised? Would they accommodate him or her. We know the answer do we not. //

You appear keen to flog this particular dead horse, so I am happy once again to point out the reasons why it is not a comparable situation.

In the case of the bakers - they own their business, and they willingly broke discrimination law, and were successfully prosecuted for it.

In the case of wine-gate, an employee opted not to serve a customer, but the customer was served by the store, no law was broken.

Hopefully that clears up any misunderstanding.

[murraymints]

employees can no longer be fickle....most working environments ask for complete flexibility across their business...no can do..no employment !!

[naomi24]

Zacs-Master, Tesco were indeed at fault - in agreeing to employ an able bodied person on terms dictated by her. More fool them.

[Togo]

No misunderstanding at all. What we once again see is a Muslim expecting "special" consideration in an environment that is not natural for their culture. Perhaps she was expecting her peer group to punish her in some way if she did not comply with the more anti social edicts of the group. You know like the young lady recently beheaded for going out without her husband.

[douglas9401]

It's all good for the skeletal health of the nation, this bending over backwards.

[Zacs-Master]

I agree Naomi, partly. Although whether she dictated to them or whether they, in an effort to be ridiculously PC have painted themselves into a corner, I'm not sure.

[naomi24]

I doubt they offered the concession if it wasn't requested.

[Zacs-Master]

Me too. I think, looking at their HR policy, that they've gotten themselves in a position where they just about can't refuse any request. Seems like they need a few HR people who know their religious do's and don't's.

[andy-hughes]

Togo - //No misunderstanding at all. What we once again see is a Muslim expecting "special" consideration in an environment that is not natural for their culture. Perhaps she was expecting her peer group to punish her in some way if she did not comply with the more anti social edicts of the group. You know like the young lady recently beheaded for going out without her husband. //

We are not party to the discussions that will have taken place before this lady was employed - but it is clear that a concession was agreed, be it offered or requested.

If an employer agrees to a concession, then the responsibility to ensure that the concession is implemented lies with the employer, who on this occasion, failed in that responsibility.

[naomi24]

Zacs-Master at 09:21, I think an eagerness to be seen to comply is the root of the problem.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes, and not just with Tesco!

[naomi24]

No indeed.

[Islay]

Look would it make you some of you happier if Tesco sacked the young girl?

At least then you would feel that vengeance had been served!

[andy-hughes]

Islay - that is obviously the appropriate outcome.

It's clear that some uppity foreigner has got ideas above her station, and is part of the Islamisation plot to take over the world, so of course, she should be fired forthwith.

Any chance of tarring and feathering her on her last day, just to discourage the rest of them from trying it on like this?