Police Out Of Order, Or Not? I Think The Female

[trt]

officer was a bit to quick to fire the taser, and didn't give proper warnings, as instructed in training.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4139478/Police-taser-race-relations-adviser-face.html

[Bazile]

SnookerPlayer - yeah , far too mouthy - taser him in the face .

Rolls eyes

[SnookerPlayer]

His eyes probably did roll.

[Mamyalynne]

Hopefully they may use the video footage in training - on how not to handle a situation.

[andy-hughes]

SnookerPlayer - //Old man ??


He looks fit and healthy, although his choice of hairstyle is somewhat questionable. //

Being fit and healthy should not make you any more or less of a target for tasering by a nervous out-of-her-depth police officer.

His hairstyle is dreadlocks, an mark of his religion, but I am sure you knew that.

// Watched the vid a few times, he brought it on himself, far too cocky. //

I think if I'd lived as long as he has, and by the law of averages, come up against as much police hostility as he probably has, I might be a bit chippy when challenged for no reason. That does not justify tasering, which should be the last resort for an officer seriously threatened and believing his or her safety to be in danger, or that of the public. Clearly that was not the case here.

[SnookerPlayer]

Just watched it again. He refuses to give his name, walks away, acts aggressively, tries to keep them away from gate, engages in a bit of a tussle.

He deserves his treatment.

If he had given his name, as requested, no problem.

[andy-hughes]

SnookerPlayer - if you watch the video again, you will see the the physical interaction starts when - as pointed out by the gentleman filming, the male police officer put his hands on the civilian first.

I appreciate that the gentleman's attitude was not co-operative, but with more appropriate reactions from the police, violence could have been avoided, and I have to reiterate, tasering (without warning) was utterly unacceptable against a man offering no physical threat.

[SnookerPlayer]

She asks him to calm down. He then walks towards her wagging his finger.

"nervous and out of her depth"

Wow, she seemed very calm and in control until the suspect kicked off.

[chelle7272]

// think if I'd lived as long as he has, and by the law of averages, come up against as much police hostility as he probably has, I might be a bit chippy when challenged for no reason//

I agree the tasering was not justified, but Mr Adunbi is a member of the local IAG and as such has a working relationship with local police and should have responded in an appropriate manner, acting as an example to others. He should have just given his name!

[SnookerPlayer]

If someone walks towards me waving a finger and mouthing off, I would feel threatened.

[SnookerPlayer]

Quite right chelle. His cocky attitude caused the situation.

Maybe the police should have just let him go on his way.

All it needed was name and date of birth. Serves him right.

[SnookerPlayer]

I thought he was challenged as the police were seeking a suspect, hardly no reason to not ask who he was.

[SnookerPlayer]

I think so too divebuddy.

[andy-hughes]

SnookerPlayer - //If someone walks towards me waving a finger and mouthing off, I would feel threatened. //

If you are threatened by someone wagging their finger and speaking to you in a slightly aggrieved tone, I would suggest you don't consider a career in law enforcement any time soon!

[andy-hughes]

chelle7272 - //I agree the tasering was not justified, but Mr Adunbi is a member of the local IAG and as such has a working relationship with local police and should have responded in an appropriate manner, acting as an example to others. He should have just given his name! //

I am happy to concede that Mr Adunbi's attitude left quite a lot to be desired, given his experience and position, but I do think that, in a comparison of a bit of attitude versus a few thousand volts and a trip to the road, most people would agree that the lady officer acted inappropriately.

There is no need to taser anyone who is not an immediate serious physical threat, and even then, a warning should be given first to give the potential assailant chance to desist before the taster is deployed.

That clearly did not happen - the officer handled it badly, and she knew she did.

[RandyMarsh]

"he was just asking for trouble and he got it."

He was walking his dog.

[SnookerPlayer]

I was brought up to respect the police. This man was pushing his luck too far.

Suppose he was the suspect they were looking for and was armed. Should they just say, "sorry sir , never mind about telling us your name, on your way".

If that is the Mr Hughes's approach to policing it is not the job for you.

[andy-hughes]

R-M - remind you of the famous Not The Nine O'clock News sketch - 'Being in possession of crinkly hair and thick lips .... wearing a loud shirt in a built-up area ..." and so on!

The could be 'Walking a dog in the hours of daylight ..."

[chelle7272]

//most people would agree that the lady officer acted inappropriately. //

As did I. The point I was addressing was that you assumed he had suffered police hostility and excused his being 'chippy' for being 'challenged for no reason'.
Despite the overreaction from the police, there was no excuse for him to behave that way and it there was a reason for the initial enquiry (challenge if you prefer).