Religion... No Excuse For Carrying A Knife?

[-Talbot-]

https://www.sikh24.com/2017/02/19/sikh-employee-granted-permission-to-wear-kirpan-at-work-in-london/#.WKrBJzuLTIU

[Hopkirk]

If there was a historical problem of sikhs using these kirpans then it would have to be stopped.

The plain fact is that there isn't.

[Islay]

How many incidents have there been in the last 10 years involving either Sikh's or Kirpan's may I ask?

[jno]

it's not a law, just a company's internal practice, which it's now decided isn't necessary. Don't let Trump know, or he'll be telling his fans about the City of London horrors.

[-Talbot-]

There has never been an historical problem with chefs or butchers using knifes ... should they be allowed to carry the tools of their trade on their person?

[OldBather]

In the UK,most "personal" Kirpans carried by Sikhs range from 3" to 5",and are unsharpened blades;so not much of a danger there then.

[Samjenko]

They should be allowed to carry them on planes, then. Because they've never flown a plane into a building,,,,,,yet.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // There has never been an historical problem with chefs or butchers using knifes ... should they be allowed to carry the tools of their trade on their person? //

I remember my economics lecturer at college telling me then when he was at college in the early sixties, there were two distinct groups of teenagers, the Mods, who all took catering, and the Rockers, who all took mechanics - and at the end of term dance, each side would appear with their relevant tools of their trade - knives for the Mods, spanners for the Rockers, for the traditional exchange of cultural differences!

[Samjenko]

It's mighty interesting that the same people who've been telling us 'the law's the law' for 3 days on another thread have had an amazing epiphany this morning. Wonder why?

[-Talbot-]

I would like to carry a knife of say 3" to 5", an unsharpened knife will do

Can I legally do that?

[Islay]

UK law permits the wearing of the ceremonial dagger in public places for religious reasons.

[Samjenko]

Just a guess, Talbot, but I don't think this thread will get too much traction. Unless the Guardian or someone has an article with tips on how to answer.

[Islay]

You may wish to make yourself familiar with the law surrounding knife carrying before you ask such questions.
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

[Samjenko]

What's the difference between a ceremonial dagger and a stabby one?

[hc4361]

Talbot, you can - a 3" penknife.

[Islay]

That's for the law to decide and it has!

[hc4361]

Sam, a stabby one is sharp, a ceremonial one isn't.

[cassa333]

Without reading the details of this particular incident I would say that unless you are working in an environment that is religion based then religious apparel has no place.

[hc4361]

When I was at school in the 70s Sikh pupils wore the kirpan. The only knife incident I can recall is when a pupil fell down the stairs with a knife in his pocket. It stabbed him in the stomach - he wasn't a Sikh, he was a white bully

[-Talbot-]

I'm well aware of the law on knives Islay (have you familiarised yourself with the Licensing Act 2003 yet?) only you spouted some untruth on the religious bigots thread)

Why can't I wear a knife?

[-Talbot-]

I don't want a penknife I want one very similar to my mate sat at the side of me at work ... it's a 5 incher.