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Should Ms Le Pen Be Forced To Conform To Islam's Practice Of Covering Their Female's Heads?
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/// A spokesman for the Grand Mufti said Ms Le Pen's aides had been informed beforehand of their requirement for her to wear head covering for the meeting in Lebanese capital Beirut. ///
/// A spokesman for the Grand Mufti said Ms Le Pen's aides had been informed beforehand of their requirement for her to wear head covering for the meeting in Lebanese capital Beirut. ///
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I think I made it fairly clear in my first post that had it been in France I would not expect there to be any issue whatsoever in her not wearing a headscarf, generally I feel people should adopt the cultural norms of one's hosts. Likewise I commented that I found Michelle Obama equally crass on this point, and I am happy to agree with you that some cultural norms are untenable and impossible to endorse or adhere to under any circumstances ( female circumcision, stoning people to death, illegality of homosexuality to name but a few).
mamya; //Barack Obama is not a Muslim.// Even the Guardian though so;
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// I can't be bothered to check,//
I cant either - whether Lebanese Law has a clause which forces french nationals to obey islamic traditions in private when meeting mufties ....
o god what a stupid question
if the grand muftee doesnt want to meet a francaise wizz a bare head - then he cancels the meeting- and she sashays out with a bare head and stunning hair do
why dont we get back to interesting things like whether Trump should be given a state visit
Didnt one of the royals don a cute veil when she met the Pope ?
I cant either - whether Lebanese Law has a clause which forces french nationals to obey islamic traditions in private when meeting mufties ....
o god what a stupid question
if the grand muftee doesnt want to meet a francaise wizz a bare head - then he cancels the meeting- and she sashays out with a bare head and stunning hair do
why dont we get back to interesting things like whether Trump should be given a state visit
Didnt one of the royals don a cute veil when she met the Pope ?
andy-hughes, //The sight of a woman - especially a Western woman, with her head uncovered, would cause severe embrassment and discomfort to Ms. Le Pen's hosts//
On my visits to Lebanon I don’t recall it ever being compulsory for a woman to cover her head and therefore the sight of a bare headed woman will come as no great shock to the Grand Mufti.
According to Reuters, Marine le Pen has now cancelled the meeting anyway.
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On my visits to Lebanon I don’t recall it ever being compulsory for a woman to cover her head and therefore the sight of a bare headed woman will come as no great shock to the Grand Mufti.
According to Reuters, Marine le Pen has now cancelled the meeting anyway.
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Peter:
According to wikipedia:
Lebanon is a parliamentary democracy, which implements a special system known as confessionalism.This system is intended to deter sectarian conflict and attempts to represent fairly the demographic distribution of the 18 recognized religious groups in government. High-ranking offices are reserved for members of specific religious groups. The President, for example, has to be a Maronite Christian, the Prime Minister a Sunni Muslim, the Speaker of the Parliament a Shi’a Muslim, the Deputy Prime Minister and the Deputy Speaker of Parliament Eastern Orthodox.
According to wikipedia:
Lebanon is a parliamentary democracy, which implements a special system known as confessionalism.This system is intended to deter sectarian conflict and attempts to represent fairly the demographic distribution of the 18 recognized religious groups in government. High-ranking offices are reserved for members of specific religious groups. The President, for example, has to be a Maronite Christian, the Prime Minister a Sunni Muslim, the Speaker of the Parliament a Shi’a Muslim, the Deputy Prime Minister and the Deputy Speaker of Parliament Eastern Orthodox.
Talbot - //Spare me the the sermon, andy ... you are telling me nothing that I don't already know. //
If you ask the question, quote 'For funk's sake why?' - then you can't really blame me for supplying you with an answer. If you as advise you already know, then why are you asking?
// You are however trying to justify it. //
That is your interpretation, which, not for the first time, is incorrect. At no point did I say that the dress restriction is right, or that I agree with it, and I have already pointed that out.
//The notion that so many women actually want to cover themselves up from head to toe is laughable ... //
To you maybe - but that does not invalidate it in the eyes of women who choose to do it.
It's easy to take a lofty Western view that our emancipated view is the only view, and women everywhere in the world should be living by our rules and standards, and if they don't they are subjugated, or just stupid.
It's that sort of assumption that drags western countries into wars because we assume that democracy is right for everyone, and they must have it, by military force if necessary.
If you can learn to read the difference between pointing something out, which I did, and agreeing that it is acceptable, which I did not, you won't have to ask questions to which you claim you know the answer - even when you clearly don't.
If you ask the question, quote 'For funk's sake why?' - then you can't really blame me for supplying you with an answer. If you as advise you already know, then why are you asking?
// You are however trying to justify it. //
That is your interpretation, which, not for the first time, is incorrect. At no point did I say that the dress restriction is right, or that I agree with it, and I have already pointed that out.
//The notion that so many women actually want to cover themselves up from head to toe is laughable ... //
To you maybe - but that does not invalidate it in the eyes of women who choose to do it.
It's easy to take a lofty Western view that our emancipated view is the only view, and women everywhere in the world should be living by our rules and standards, and if they don't they are subjugated, or just stupid.
It's that sort of assumption that drags western countries into wars because we assume that democracy is right for everyone, and they must have it, by military force if necessary.
If you can learn to read the difference between pointing something out, which I did, and agreeing that it is acceptable, which I did not, you won't have to ask questions to which you claim you know the answer - even when you clearly don't.
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