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/// I didn't know the question of EU members staying in the uk was being asked exclusively by remoaners. Do you have any evidence or is this just supposition? ///

And I never said it was being asked 'exclusively' by remoaners.

Do you have any evidence or is this just supposition?

Stop digging Zacs your hole is getting deeper and deeper.
Then why did you write 'Then why have the Remoaners been getting all het-up over the possibility?'

What point were you trying to make by mentioning remoaners and not mentioning Brexiters?

Presumably, the 'remoaners' are happy with the formation of a European Army, - which is the avowed intention of the Brussels bureaucracy.
We brexiteers do not want the UK armed forces to be governed by foreign, rotating, commander in chiefs, acting under the overall command of the likes of J.C. Juncker.
Spinning things to your own ends again Khandro. I'm happy with NATO and the part we play in it.
This, however, is nothing to do with a "European army"
Do you support NATO Khandro?
//I'm happy with NATO and the part we play in it.//

Me too, but Brussels and Merkel isn't, and particularly now after her visit to The Donald with his quite reasonable demand that all should pay their fair whack, an EU Army Plan and support for it already exist and Britain will be well out of it.
Or do you disagree?
Stop constantly trying to spin things. No one has said anything about an EU army but you Khandro.
If the UK was not leaving the EU we could and would have prevented this (I am very sceptical that it will happen anyway)
But to get back to the question, you are happy with NATO and the part we play in it but presumably not this particular part, Khandro? That is what I don't get, really. For those who don't support NATO this is bad news, but I don't see why whose who support NATO would not support it.
("it" being the protection of Estonia)
I voted for Brexit, I also support NATO, so yes we should send our troops imo.
// you are happy with NATO and the part we play in it but presumably not this particular part, Khandro?//

Britain pays its fair contribution to its expenditure, but that doesn't mean that all members should agree to all its actions and should not have to participate in aggressive acts willy-nilly just because the hawks in the pentagon wish them.
Cuckoo^^^
One can not have divisions. Strength comes from unity. All NATO members need to agree and bear joint responsibility for the joint decisions. The troop movements are part of our commitment. To refuse to defend where needed because we don't want to would simply destroy the whole concept and leave us wide open.
Well said OG.
I support Og's p.o.v..
No disrespect to our 800 troops but 4million Wehrmacht had their *** handed to them by the Russians.
If they wanted, they could stroll into Estonia.
This is game playing.
Of course it's game playing. But game playing is better than war.

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