Has Multicultualism Worked In The Uk?

[anotheoldgit]

Since the dawn of time multiculturalism has not worked in any country, how can Britain be any different?

[tamborine]

Allen, blame Gandhi for removing Britain from India

[Khandro]

Kvalidir // multiculturalism has worked in the UK since Roman times and more lately since the huge influx of Europeans during the 19th century.//

You don't seem to understand what multiculturalism pretends to be.
The Europeans you speak of are all from a common Christian background and there is no cultural divide.

[New Judge]

“All largely rubbish, I'm afraid.”

So Trevor Phillips (former Chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality and its successor, the Equality and Human Rights Commission) has got it wrong, then?

Of course people “rub along together”. Because they have to. They have to deal with the circumstances often created by politicians, many of whom seem to place greater emphasis on the rights, the needs and the requirements of minorities than they do on those of the vast majority. Circumstances over which they have no control. That doesn’t mean that the UK is some sort of “multicultural” Utopia. Far from it. It simply means that people are making the best of the situation that has been foisted on them.

You mention London which is handy, because it’s a place I know quite a lot about. The city is different to anywhere else in the country by virtue of its size. Many areas contain a mixture of large numbers of people of different races, religions and cultures and the “churn” of people means that the mixture is always changing. It appears that London is one big melting pot of all sorts of people “rubbing along” together. But dig a little deeper (and you don’t have to dig too deep) and you will discover that some areas of London exhibit no such diversity. They are “enclaves” where 99% of people are of just one religion and culture and areas like that can rightly be described as ghettos. Similar areas exist across the rest of the country but because the towns concerned are considerably smaller the effect is very much magnified.

These areas are not “multicultural”. They are almost monocultural and the culture is not that which the majority of people in the UK follow. Furthermore there is not a cat in hell’s chance of them changing any time soon (except that the single prevalent culture will become more entrenched).

“…the subsequent 'religious' strife [in India and Pakistan] seems to have been CAUSED by this dividing, not the other way round."

So you’re suggesting then that had India not been partitioned, the Muslims would have “rubbed along” perfectly well with the others for the last 70 years?

[emmie]

no they wouldn't have, political strife had been going on for a long while, hence eventually partition.

[Garaman]

Hard to say if it has worked or not as we don't know how the UK would have been without immigrants. There are some downsides but I would imagine that the upsides outweigh them. Mankind probably wouldn't have progressed quite so much if each tribe had just kept itself in isolation.

[Samjenko]

Yes, and now we have one tribe determined to take us back to the 7th century. (ably assisted by useful fools)

[Samjenko]

Learned something today, didn't you, allen?

[mushroom25]

//Why 'blame' Ghandi for getting the Brits out of India? Congratulate him, more like. //

Hindu Mahasabha didn't congratulate him - unless you count "assassination" as a form of congratulation?

[anotheoldgit]

allen

/// India is a complicated case. For millenia, it HAS had huge Hindu ad Muslim populations who have, largely, got along. ///

So that is why they have chosen to separate from each other?
But even then the Muslims cannot get on with each other, so that is why East and West Pakistan went to war and it finished up with two separate countries Pakistan and Balderdash.

[trt]

No, No, No.

If certain Faiths can have their own ''No Go Zones'' in some Towns, like Bradford, Birmingham, some parts of London etc in the UK, of course its not working.

If 100/200 Christians, decided to pray in a street/road on a Sunday morning, would they be moved on, by the police YES, but Muslims wouldn't, in case we are called racist!

MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.

[New Judge]

“For millenia, it HAS had huge Hindu ad Muslim populations who have, largely, got along.”

It couldn’t have had a Muslim population “for millennia”. As far as I know that pernicious religion has only been going for about 1.4 millenia.

[emmie]

trt
they do this in Finsbury park, hundreds often pray outside because they can't get in the mosque.

[anotheoldgit]

emmie

/// they do this in Finsbury park, hundreds often pray outside because they can't get in the mosque. ///

Yet another example of the strain on our infrastructure, brought on by mass immigration, we now don't have enough Mosques to go round.

[emmie]

at last count there were 423 mosques in London, and 1,000 churches, so plenty enough room for everyone i think.

[Samjenko]

Come, come, allen. You've probably been spouting your 'Britain divided India' mantra since you heard another half-wit spout it at your first SWP meeting.
Luckily/unluckily, your previous audiences were likely as appallingly ignorant as you yourself are.
After today you won't be making that mistake again.

[New Judge]

"they do this in Finsbury park, hundreds often pray outside because they can't get in the mosque."

Yes but do you think if the congregation of St Saviour's in Hanley Road (just round the corner from the Finsbury Park Mosque) regularly spilt into the road, knelt down to pray and stopped the traffic, it would be tolerated for too long?

[emmie]

NJ
no i don't.