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Nick Clegg: Why Did Ebbw Vale In Wales Vote Brexit?
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When I have said before, on AB, that xenophobia was the prime cause of the BREXIT vote, I have been howled down. But in this BBC report from South Wales, its clear that it was a very strong reason behind people voting to leave the EU, at least with older voters.
Even in a Town where there is little immigration, the fear of it persuaded people to vote OUT, even when it has benefited hugely from EU funding.
It make for interesting viewing !
When I have said before, on AB, that xenophobia was the prime cause of the BREXIT vote, I have been howled down. But in this BBC report from South Wales, its clear that it was a very strong reason behind people voting to leave the EU, at least with older voters.
Even in a Town where there is little immigration, the fear of it persuaded people to vote OUT, even when it has benefited hugely from EU funding.
It make for interesting viewing !
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I must admit that I can't see a problem with Polish supermarkets in Hereford, nor have I noticed it particularly resplendent with immigrants than most other towns, nor do they worry me, at all, but then I have a Romanian born partner. The lovely Polish lady at the garage ran after me the other day because I'd dropped my purse, they are just like us. They are just...
14:01 Wed 29th Mar 2017
// Even in a Town where there is little immigration, the fear of it persuaded people to vote OUT, even when it has benefited hugely from EU funding. //
cornwall voted massively for Brexit altho it has some of the highest EU funding for rural slums and when the cornishmen were asked on Brexit where would the EU money come from - they said
" london of course ! we have a sent a councillor on the train up there this very week to demand our rights.... " ( yes councillor ho hum)
change a few words and it is the same for scotland
cornwall voted massively for Brexit altho it has some of the highest EU funding for rural slums and when the cornishmen were asked on Brexit where would the EU money come from - they said
" london of course ! we have a sent a councillor on the train up there this very week to demand our rights.... " ( yes councillor ho hum)
change a few words and it is the same for scotland
Mikey, don’t you think it possible that people there are concerned that with more immigration, the few jobs available to the unskilled may well be lost to them? That’s not xenophobia – that’s common sense. Perhaps you should consider abandoning big words until you understand what they mean. You so often get them wrong.
Oddly, though, the "concern" is very different depending on the age groups you talk to. An obvious concern, and it is expressed at the end of Nick Clegg's film, is what happens if or when the (presumably younger) people who are dissatisfied with their lot, find that Brexit hasn't made them any wealthier, or freer, and, for the older things have not reverted to "how they used to be".
It will take years, possibly generations to turn the UK (in whatever form it may be) into a low-migration economy, tho something tells me what will not happen.
An interesting film mikey, thanks.
It will take years, possibly generations to turn the UK (in whatever form it may be) into a low-migration economy, tho something tells me what will not happen.
An interesting film mikey, thanks.
Ratter...but again, what is wrong with shops selling Polish food ?
I use a Polish shop in Swansea every week, as they sell wonderful Rye bread. I would imagine that Swansea has a much larger Polish population than Hereford, but it hasn't changed its central character. Its still the ugly, lovely Town by the Sea.
Again, I ask why are a few Polish shops changing Hereford so utterly ?
I use a Polish shop in Swansea every week, as they sell wonderful Rye bread. I would imagine that Swansea has a much larger Polish population than Hereford, but it hasn't changed its central character. Its still the ugly, lovely Town by the Sea.
Again, I ask why are a few Polish shops changing Hereford so utterly ?
The Polish food shops complaint: if that isn't classic xenophobia then I don't know what is :-)
I do wonder, as Mrs May warbles on about making Britain "truly global" if some Brexitters are actually listening. Did they vote out just so we could have fewer Poles but more Indians? Nick Griffin, where are you??
I do wonder, as Mrs May warbles on about making Britain "truly global" if some Brexitters are actually listening. Did they vote out just so we could have fewer Poles but more Indians? Nick Griffin, where are you??
// there are concerned that with more immigration, the few jobs available to the unskilled may well be lost to them? That’s not ... common sense. // that argument is just plain stupidity such as you see every day on AB
saving low skilled jobs for the Brits who wont do them
( hence commonwealth immigration in the fifties to bring in Jamaicans who would) -isnt it common sense to raise education standards so that the low skilled become erm skilled
such an argument may well be above the average Brexit voter.
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saving low skilled jobs for the Brits who wont do them
( hence commonwealth immigration in the fifties to bring in Jamaicans who would) -isnt it common sense to raise education standards so that the low skilled become erm skilled
such an argument may well be above the average Brexit voter.
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Hmm lets brexit so that we can have more of the population on basic wage of £6.87 / h and zero hour contracts....
is NOT an argument I clearly recollect ...
Lets change immigration rules - but we want all the expat Brits to stay where they are as of right
Lets spend no less than £350m a week on the NHS
Oh oops I shouldnt have said that ( The Nige ) post facto
Lets have law we can make sense of (like Sgt B) (details changed a bit)
Lets reduce VAT on fuel on Day 1 !
and we just do it on Day one !
yeah I remember those old lies ......
( post facto means 'after the fact' for thos who dont do foreign languages)
is NOT an argument I clearly recollect ...
Lets change immigration rules - but we want all the expat Brits to stay where they are as of right
Lets spend no less than £350m a week on the NHS
Oh oops I shouldnt have said that ( The Nige ) post facto
Lets have law we can make sense of (like Sgt B) (details changed a bit)
Lets reduce VAT on fuel on Day 1 !
and we just do it on Day one !
yeah I remember those old lies ......
( post facto means 'after the fact' for thos who dont do foreign languages)
Mikey, I am very familer with S.Wales, I used to haul out of all the steel works " Who is now owned by Tata" you say you do not have immigration issues there! that's yet Mikey, when you have a min or two to spare look up Lincolnshire, From Boston, Stamford, up to Wisbech, these area were all known for the farming products, now worked by polish " Cheap Labour" Up to now South Wales has been very Lucky, maybe like myself the Immigrant have trouble with the language, I would suggest fitting gates to the Entrance to the 2 severn crossings, your time is to come
//saving low skilled jobs for the Brits who wont do them
( hence commonwealth immigration in the fifties to bring in Jamaicans who would) -isnt it common sense to raise education standards so that the low skilled become erm skilled
such an argument may well be above the average Brexit voter.
[quotes have been edited for greater clarity]//
Clarity not improved by editorial efforts.
Usual incoherence unmediated by poster's customary wit,.
( hence commonwealth immigration in the fifties to bring in Jamaicans who would) -isnt it common sense to raise education standards so that the low skilled become erm skilled
such an argument may well be above the average Brexit voter.
[quotes have been edited for greater clarity]//
Clarity not improved by editorial efforts.
Usual incoherence unmediated by poster's customary wit,.
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