Nick Clegg: Why Did Ebbw Vale In Wales Vote Brexit?

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39425373

When I have said before, on AB, that xenophobia was the prime cause of the BREXIT vote, I have been howled down. But in this BBC report from South Wales, its clear that it was a very strong reason behind people voting to leave the EU, at least with older voters.

Even in a Town where there is little immigration, the fear of it persuaded people to vote OUT, even when it has benefited hugely from EU funding.

It make for interesting viewing !

[mikey4444]

TWR....that doesn't explain why so many of the older people voted for BREXIT in Ebbw Vale. I think the younger people that Clegg interviewed probably had it right.....people were afraid of immigrants, even when there aren't any nearby.

But Cleggs report clearly shows that xenophobia was a prime cause of the Brexit vote, something I have always suspected, though it was hotly denied by many on AB.

[Samjenko]

Peter Pedant///Lets spend no less than £350m a week on the NHS
Oh oops I shouldnt have said that ( The Nige ) post facto///

^Lie.

[ichkeria]

Re Polish shops
"Clearly another that doesnt know the difference between a xenophobe and someone with a realistic concern. "

So what is your "realistic concern" about then? Too many types of rye bread, perhaps, or the wrong sort of yeast :-)
Over the years I've been amazed at the number of Asian restaurants that have appeared in our town, but we're still largely white, tight and outa sight :-)

[Samjenko]

Nick Clegg: Why?

Fixed your OP for you, mikey. ;)

[HansUrbancka]

Hopefully I am staying on thread when I ask.......What Funding does the UK get from Brussels ? Surely it is money being returned from that which the UK has paid into the EU coffers.?!!

Hans.

[carolegif]

The argument was that with all the money put into the area, none of it. Created new industry or jobs. All the shiny new buildings were built by cheap foreign labour, the dragon sculpture and new bollards looked nice, but that was all. The sixth formers spoke sense regarding immigration , but I wonder, with all their qualifications,what jobs would there be for them? I expect they will all leave the area. Earlier generations already have,which is why there was an elderly population who have been totally letdown by successive governments and the EU.

[EDDIE51]

You and me both mikey. When I told the story of the women in our local Muslim run corner shop, clapping,cheering and telling the shopkeeper,we are out of the EU so all you immigrants will have to go home. I was told I was lying or had imagined it!

[ichkeria]

... and that, of course, is all going to change now, mraculously :-)

[vetuste_ennemi]

//( post facto means 'after the fact' for thos who dont do foreign languages) //

Thought it was post factum misself innit. But not knowing the difference between accusative and ablative what the hell duzz me no.

pax tecum.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// But Ebbw Vale has very little immigration. ///

And perhaps they want to keep it that way, and don't want to be taken literally when they sing,
♫ We'll keep a welcome in the hillside ♫

[anneasquith]

Maybe they voted brexit to ensure a safer health service, who wouldn't want all those millions spent on the health service.?

[mikey4444]

carolegif....there are many places like Ebbw Vale in South Wales.

Its difficult to replace a huge industry like the steel works that totally dominated the town. There has been some progress in the Valleys, in attracting new jobs, although not as much as is needed. My point is that it was EU money that allowed any infrastructure improvements to be made in the first place.

By the way....don't too get disparaging about the "shiny new buildings"....they include a brand new school and a hospital.....hardly a waste of money I would have thought.

And I can find no evidence that these shiny new buildings were built by cheap foreign labour.

[vetuste_ennemi]

edoka, didoka.
it's *** and elbow stuff.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Why is "aorist" a banned word?

[TWR]

Mikey, the ""town"" I live in has 10 Foreign owned takaways, 4 Idian Restaurants, 3 Chinese take aways, 4 owned Chinese chippies, population 14,765, one large Asian owned garage, 2 chemist's that Asian owned, have I missed something here? people & the public are greatly concerned with the influx of immigrants, it's nothing to do whether they are Pink / Black / Yellow / Purple, we are FULL, how much more notice will this government take notice, we are bloody FULL. even an idiot can see that.

[RATTER15]

ichkeria "So what is your "realistic concern" about then? Too many types of rye bread, perhaps, or the wrong sort of yeast :-)"

My concern is the face of our high streets changing, the sheer number of Polish shops to accommodate the sheer numbers of Poles. If the Romanians and the Indians etc etc. all started opening up their own supermarkets at the same rate we would be hard pushed to buy English food in our own towns.
I can explain it for you but I cant understand it for you!!

[mushroom25]

//people were afraid of immigrants, even when there aren't any nearby. //

in Ebbw Vale, people are suspicious of incomers from Rogerstone, never mind from beyond the River Wye.

[mikey4444]

TWR....that may be true in your home town, but it isn't true in Ebbw Vale, although, like everywhere these days, there seems to be rather a lot of takeaway outlets...patronised, enthusisatically by non immigrants don't forget.

[mikey4444]

Ratter....calm down !....Hereford is not going to become a ghetto for white British people !

[RATTER15]

Mikey. "Ratter....calm down !....Hereford is not going to become a ghetto for white British people !"

Im more worried about all the white people from Hereford invading nearby Hay on Wye and disturbing my peace and tranquility, you know what those English are like! :-)