French Elections

[cassa333]

No link I'm afraid but the only predictions I could find is that Macron had got 60% of the vote of those coming out of the polling stations.

Are the Grench more honest in the exit polls ?

[-Talbot-]

anne, if you stop asking daft questions, AOG won't be able to give daft answers.

[Kromovaracun]

It is strange how everything for the British right seems to come back to re-enacting World War 2, as if that conflict offers a convenient template for how to act in any given international situation.

[-Talbot-]

The British right?

It was just AOG.

[anotheoldgit]

Kromovaracun

Always best to act on one's successes.

[andy-hughes]

The election result will add another layer to the frenzied speculation that is keeping the media busy.

The fact was, is, and will be - that no-one knows how the negotiations for Brexit are going to go, because they haven't started yet, so everything is simply speculation, which is free, and therefore much overdone.

The current default position is that Britain is being a stroppy teenager by falling out with its family in Europe, and must be sent to its room and have its X-Box taken away.

In the real world, Britain is an independent trading nation, and has no need to be treated like this (except it isn't being treated like this except in the minds of journalists).

The real negotiations - not those fantasised about in trendy wine bars by overpaid media hacks - are going to work the way all negotiations work, with mutual respect, and a willingness to see what can be sorted out.

Each side will have its demands, and things it is unwilling to concede, and it will all be discussed, because that is how negotiations operate.

All this faff about Britain being 'punished' or 'fined' is media puff, and should be ignored.

[jim360]

I think WWII is a great model to follow. Stride boldly into Germany promising to give them everything they want; act surprised when it turns out this only encourages them to ask for even more; get utterly trounced in the ensuing mess; and then run crying to the US for help to sort those nasty Germans out for us.

Makes you proud to be British, does it not?

( ^^ OBVIOUS SATIRE FLAG)

[andy-hughes]

Jim - Although AOG is pleased to refer to WWII as a 'success' - history shows that had Hitler not spread his forces too thin - in North Africa and on the Russian Front, things could have been very different.

[-Talbot-]

Not sure why you needed to explain it was satire.
Regardless it shows your thinking. andy unsurprisingly has jump on board.

[jim360]

Well I'm not intending to derail this thread into a "what if" history lesson, but doesn't your statement above amount to asking "what if Hitler hadn't been such a megalomaniac so convinced of his own greatness that there was no room in his world for any doubt and caution?"?

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - //Not sure why you needed to explain it was satire.
Regardless it shows your thinking. andy unsurprisingly has jump on board. //

I added a viewpoint - I haven't 'jumped on' anything.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Jim !
you re well I hope

yeah agreed - what if Marine had won the election ? - or a two headed elephant was nominated Finance Minister ?

but she didnt so the question becomes a footnote on AB

[jim360]

Not sure why it shows my thinking when it's got the "obvious satire flag" -- and as for why I included that, simple: I've been obviously satirical before and people have missed that and taken me 100% literally instead.

I should hope it goes without saying that I'm grateful for the role the British played in winning WWII. That doesn't mean I can't joke about it from time to time.

[Peter Pedant]

I preferred your view point Jim
of at the end of the war
Britain was bankrupt and had agreed to give up empire

huge transfer of finance to American as if it needed it....
which built their magnificent road sustem didnt it ?

[anneasquith]

I misread Satire flag for Saltire flag .!!!! :-)

[ichkeria]

"What is wrong in being a nationalist we could do with more in this country? "

AOG: the point is that many nationalists put their own countries first (or think they do) and to hell with everyone else. Just reminding you that Le Pen is a raving FRENCH nationalist, not a British one, ok? :-)

[Khandro]

'In an opinion piece for Fox News, the most-viewed US cable news channel and a favourite of American conservatives, executive editor John Moody, said "France has taken the easy way out, and voted for more of the same".
He added: "He wants France to stay in the European Union and continue its open borders policy that has brought thousands of Muslim immigrants to France. When asked what he would do about Islamic terrorism, candidate Macron said: 'This threat will be a fact of daily life in the coming years.' How's that for taking decisive action?"'