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[Jackdaw33]

...but is this an accident or another incident?

[youngmafbog]

I'm not sure the label 'terrorist' applies.

"a person who employs terror or terrorism, esp as a political weapon"

If deliberate and a one-off - he is a vile murderer and it important to get the label correct if you are to deal with the problem. Of course if it comes to pass he is part of an orchestrated group planning multiple attacks then he will be a terrorist, but as yet nothing like that is being suggested.

[ummmm]

Years ago, on here, I said this will happen and was dismissed as stupid.

Anyone who doesn't value their life has the potential to commit such acts.

[murraymints]

...and this will not be the last...sadly...

[youngmafbog]

No it wont, but potentially mis-labelling it means it becomes more difficult to tackle.

We need to push integration and tackle anyone, from any angle, that refuses it harshly. Those Muslims who abhor Islamic extremists need to stand side by side with us and we both need to route out those that will murder.

United we stand, divided we fall.

[mikey4444]

"It's just a shame someone has to sink to the same low levels as the terrorists to get their voice heard"

Yes, what a terrible shame.

What an terrible pity that they can't get their voices heard without killing people.

[Peter Pedant]

// "It's just a shame someone has to sink to the same low levels as the terrorists to get their voice heard"// mikey

excuse me - what message is that for chrissakes ( pun intended)

I want to kill christians / muslims ?

the only thing that surprises me is they didnt lynch him as he pleaded them to do . Police saying that they are not sure if the dead man who was run down died as a result of being run down. SO they're obviously facing p to the situation and in charge

[vetuste_ennemi]

Excellent (and long awaited) corroboration of the "correct" view (assuming you ignore the arithmetic): just as likely to be killed by a white supremacist/far-right/neo-Nazi as you are by a follower of the Religion of Peace.

[douglas9401]

It's an inevitable event given the increasing pressure being applied by suicidal cultists around the world.
What, incidentally, suddenly makes mosques worthy of special security measures? Surely we're all in this together and have to take our chances as a society.
Or are shouty people with sharp elbows once again going to be placed front and centre, reinforcing feelings of them and us.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Douglas is not singing from the approved hymn sheet.
Don't you understand the pecking order, Douglas?

[douglas9401]

I understand it perfectly thanks and have come down on the side of cluck it.

[anotheoldgit]

The police were quick to announce that they are classing it as a Far-Right terrorist attack, not that it was a hate crime committed by a lone nutter of course. Regarding being a member of a far-right organisation, how on earth do they know that so soon?.

It was also reported that a few tried to lynch the killer, does that mean that they will also be arrested and charged with attempted murder?

[mikey4444]

AOG....I have seen no reference that anybody tried to lynch the driver of the van. That is tried to hang him.

The Home Sec, Amber Rudd, said the attack is being treated by the police "as a terrorist incident."

No mention "far right"

[ummmm]

They didn't lynch the driver. They held him down until the police arrived.

[mikey4444]

Ummmm...thanks....what a pity that everybody couldn't see that ?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Police spokesman (BBC) very knowledgeable about Ramadan and the ending of the fast. Didn't mention Iftar, though.

Do you think they do a course on "Know your local Muslim"?

[anotheoldgit]

I can only go on what I heard on LBC radio news,early this morning, both attempted lynching and the Far-Right association was mentioned.
If all mention of them have now been removed for PC reasons, that is all part and parcel of the course these days.

The Metro's version of events.

/// He was pinned to the floor and people could be heard shouting at him, understandably angry at what they had just seen. ///

/// Their anger continued when police turned up to take the man into custody, but others, led by the imam, begged for calm outside Muslim Welfare House. ///

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm
/// They didn't lynch the driver. ///

And who said they did? Hence my mention of 'attempted murder'.

If they had done so he would have been dead, and they would be facing a murder charge.

[vetuste_ennemi]

The important "lessons" from this latest atrocity:

Don't let the terrorists divide us.
Diversity is our strength.
And (most importantly)...
Get used to it.

[anotheoldgit]

vetuste_ennemi

Judging by some opinions, we are certainly divided on AB.

[-Talbot-]

Another success for the Islamist