Is There Still A Need For This Expensive And Disruptive Exercise, In This Country?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4677058/One-million-people-gather-London-UK-s-biggest-Pride.html

Perhaps in those countries that are not so acceptive to homosexuality, but surely there is now no longer need here?

[Islay]

BA to Gness !!

[Togo]

//to be hurtful and unkind to folk who maybe already struggling and suffering through ignorance and unkindness......x//

Laugh of the day or what?

[sp1814]

Togo

Perhaps, perhaps - but I doubt if many people would agree that jailing, sacking, castrating gay people is positive for society.

[jim360]

I'm glad you were able to look at the deep meaning of my post, AOG, rather than get caught up in minutiae. Wouldn't want to let pedantry distract us from the discussion at hand, would we?

[gness]

Togo....I know the reason for your behaviour.....and it's not age.....but you've been led a merry dance......x

Hi, Islay......isn't it lovely when you shut down your laptop smile and think......I'm so thankful that person doesn't belong to me..... ;-)

[vetuste_ennemi]

//I doubt if many people would agree that jailing, sacking, castrating gay people is positive for society.//

The implication that people who object to the Gay Pride Flaunt necessarily approve any or all of the above is (atypically) illogical ,
but (typically) abusive.

[Kromovaracun]

Well it was also members of the "older generation" - i.e. those born in the 40s and 50s - who decriminalized homosexuality and actually changed the culture around same sex love to the point where we are pretty much close to full equality today. In fact depending on what you mean by "old" you could argue that gay rights is one of the Baby Boomers' finest achievements.

Also my 81-year-old grandmother came to my Civil Partnership ceremony last month and gave her blessing.

[Islay]

Absolutely, I am going to see my wonderful brother and dad this week and will give them an extra special hug because I am very grateful they are so different from some of the people on here!!

[Islay]

Kromo you grandmother is a very special lady xx

[Kromovaracun]

Plus Leo Abse was born in 1917 and appeared to be able to grasp the basic moral idea of allowing consenting adults to love who they like.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Handkerchief over face - draws deeply from the vinaigrette.

[sp1814]

No Togo.

That's not the implication.

I raised the point that older people grew up in an era where being gay could be life-ruining.

During that time gay people were indeed jailed, sacked, ostracised etc.

That was society then. It's a fact. I am not saying that those who object to the Pride events approve of the way that gay people were treated in the past. I'm saying that this was the environment they were brought up in.

What you have done is taken what I have written and extrapolated.

You are mistaken.

[Togo]

I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet, strange, I am ungrateful to those teachers.
- Khalil Gibran

[anotheoldgit]

Just the same with some black people, why don't they just merge with the rest of us, without all this need to show they are different?

There are some gay entertainers and celebrities who never purposely go out to announce that they are gay, Judge Robert Rinder, Evan Davis and Louis Walsh etc.

Yet there are others such as Graham Norton, Alan Carr and David Walliams who are so camp, so much so that they purposely make fun out of themselves.

[Islay]

//There are some gay entertainers and celebrities who never purposely go out to announce that they are gay, Judge Robert Rinder, Evan Davis and Louis Walsh etc. //

judge Rinder is very open with his sexuality and even published pictures of his wedding in which his best friend Benedict Cumberbatch presided over.

[Islay]

//Just the same with some black people, why don't they just merge with the rest of us, without all this need to show they are different//

Are you serious?

[Kromovaracun]

//Yet there are others such as Graham Norton, Alan Carr and David Walliams who are so camp, so much so that they purposely make fun out of themselves.//

What's wrong with that?

[EcclesCake]

Could someone please pass me a cold towel for my chin?

After reading AOGs latest words of wisdom (?) my jaw just hit my hardwood floor, ouch!

[Kromovaracun]

Islay - she really is :)

[anotheoldgit]

I posted this thread and haver read every post, and I can't see any real hatred towards Gays, certain criticisms maybe but then are we not all open to those, (I get them all the time here), be one Gay or Straight (oh how I hate that description, seems to infer that Gays are somehow bent)

So enough of the invented hatred towards gays, and also the joys of being one or having one in the family, because I am sure most of us would still love our children, grandchildren or great grandchildren, if they turned out to be gay.