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Is There Still A Need For This Expensive And Disruptive Exercise, In This Country?
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Perhaps in those countries that are not so acceptive to homosexuality, but surely there is now no longer need here?
Perhaps in those countries that are not so acceptive to homosexuality, but surely there is now no longer need here?
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“…wander to somewhere along the route of the march. You'll both be very welcome and have an excellent time. :o)” Two or three years ago I was unfortunate enough to be “somewhere along the route of the march”, not wandering but trying to go about my business. I’m not sure whether or not I was welcome (I would like to hope I was not). This was because my...
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I'm a straight man. I find the idea of sex with any man physically repulsive. That said, I find the idea of sex with many women physically repulsive too! I also find the idea of lots of other things physically repulsive, such as laser eye surgery!
Many years ago, whilst still a child, one of the things that helped form my opinions of gay men was the way this country treated one of its greatest war heroes, Alan Turing.
Being gay is OK.
Once you accept that, everything else that follows - celebrating being gay, promoting openness and acceptance - is of course OK. If you don't accept that being gay is OK then nothing that follows is OK, either.
> was passing a pub just off Baker Street where hundreds of rugby league supporters were drinking outside prior to getting the train to Wembley for the cup final
I can picture the scene and confess I find it very amusing. But surely all those rugby league fans in London were creating a nuisance for people trying to go about their everyday business ...
Many years ago, whilst still a child, one of the things that helped form my opinions of gay men was the way this country treated one of its greatest war heroes, Alan Turing.
Being gay is OK.
Once you accept that, everything else that follows - celebrating being gay, promoting openness and acceptance - is of course OK. If you don't accept that being gay is OK then nothing that follows is OK, either.
> was passing a pub just off Baker Street where hundreds of rugby league supporters were drinking outside prior to getting the train to Wembley for the cup final
I can picture the scene and confess I find it very amusing. But surely all those rugby league fans in London were creating a nuisance for people trying to go about their everyday business ...
I posted earlier that I would not harm gays, but it got me to thinking back to my youth a very, very long time ago.
I remember it was deemed unsafe for one to sit alone waiting in a bus station for one's bus or in a rail station waiting for a train, because often or not, what we then called dirty old queers would come and sit next to you, and try and chat you up.
It was at times like this when it came very close to kicking them where it hurt.
Another venue where it was unsafe to go and that was in public toilets, where they would hover waiting to accost you.
I remember it was deemed unsafe for one to sit alone waiting in a bus station for one's bus or in a rail station waiting for a train, because often or not, what we then called dirty old queers would come and sit next to you, and try and chat you up.
It was at times like this when it came very close to kicking them where it hurt.
Another venue where it was unsafe to go and that was in public toilets, where they would hover waiting to accost you.
AOG
You wrote:
//I remember it was deemed unsafe for one to sit alone waiting in a bus station for one's bus or in a rail station waiting for a train, because often or not, what we then called dirty old queers would come and sit next to you, and try and chat you up.//
I know a gay chap who was followed from a bar by a group of thugs who attacked him and blinded him.
They were never caught.
In your example you might have been chatted up. In my example, the victim had life altering injuries.
That's the difference.
You wrote:
//I remember it was deemed unsafe for one to sit alone waiting in a bus station for one's bus or in a rail station waiting for a train, because often or not, what we then called dirty old queers would come and sit next to you, and try and chat you up.//
I know a gay chap who was followed from a bar by a group of thugs who attacked him and blinded him.
They were never caught.
In your example you might have been chatted up. In my example, the victim had life altering injuries.
That's the difference.
gness, since I think an individual’s sexuality should, in my opinion, be a private matter, I wouldn’t be bothered to organise ‘parades’ – and actually that word speaks volumes. That said I’ve no objection to Gay Pride events – I like to see people enjoying themselves - although I have to agree with someone who said there are usually some odd and creepy people among those present – and my gay friends would agree with that.
AOG
The great thing about Pride is that it's now no longer a 'gay parade'. It's a huge party where people (gay or straight) can come into London, drink, party and have a good time and acknowledge that I don't align myself with those who have an issue with gay people.
And at times like this, where there is fear of attack from religious fundamentalists either physically or verbally, isn't it great that a million people can stick two fingers up?
Don't you think that's pretty awesome?
The great thing about Pride is that it's now no longer a 'gay parade'. It's a huge party where people (gay or straight) can come into London, drink, party and have a good time and acknowledge that I don't align myself with those who have an issue with gay people.
And at times like this, where there is fear of attack from religious fundamentalists either physically or verbally, isn't it great that a million people can stick two fingers up?
Don't you think that's pretty awesome?
gness
Excellent!
Even if I don't attend an event, be it Kenwood, Glastonbury, the Carnival, or Pride - it makes me happy to hear that people have enjoyed the event.
I think that most people who don't go, assume it's some dour protest - whereas in fact, it's just a hugely enjoyable respite from day-to-day drudgery.
Actually AOG - that's the answer I'd give.
Is Pride needed?
Yes, because without the distraction of a day of happiness, fun, good music, drinking, partying and strangers linking arms and enjoying the sun - then all we have is what?
What is needed right now is good times.
That is why Pride is needed.
Excellent!
Even if I don't attend an event, be it Kenwood, Glastonbury, the Carnival, or Pride - it makes me happy to hear that people have enjoyed the event.
I think that most people who don't go, assume it's some dour protest - whereas in fact, it's just a hugely enjoyable respite from day-to-day drudgery.
Actually AOG - that's the answer I'd give.
Is Pride needed?
Yes, because without the distraction of a day of happiness, fun, good music, drinking, partying and strangers linking arms and enjoying the sun - then all we have is what?
What is needed right now is good times.
That is why Pride is needed.
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