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anotheoldgit | 11:45 Sat 08th Jul 2017 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4677068/Donald-Trump-says-coming-London.html

And more good news is President Trump will be coming to London.

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Jim, forgot about his Son-in-law - isn't he under investigation for something or another allegedly?
That's not been mentioned recently as far as I know
The Special Counsel might still be investigating Kushner and other Russia-related links in the Trump team. At this point nothing definite's come out, better to wait for the investigation to run its course.

Kushner has no right to be so heavily involved in US politics anyway, although I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call him corrupt. Just clearly unqualified and there through blatant nepotism.
it's the age old 'thing', isn't it?
It's not what you know, it's who you know
emmie
i doubt if that wall gets off the ground, the cost would be prohibitive.



It would take some seriously dodgy builders to get it off the ground.
Celtigra - I'm more concerned about that Kim Jung whatshisname having HIS finger on the nuclear button!
As jim said, the USA is not at all likely to enter into a deal of any kind unless it is clearly advantageous to the USA, regardless of who is president. The UK follows much the same approach to international deals and thus the likelihood that the two will end up in an impasse is quite high as both (as is their want) seek advantage at the cost of the other. However, there is the possibility that the UK will feel a greater need than the USA once "free" and alone again - will it ramp up the attachment to the USA so far as becoming something approaching the 51st state ? This, like every part of the Brexit process and beyond will be very interesting to observe.
*wont
KARL; // the USA is not at all likely to enter into a deal of any kind unless it is clearly advantageous to the USA,//

Isn't that what deals are all about, why would anybody do otherwise?
Just because he didn't sign up to the climate agreement nor get it modified it doesn't mean he won't be under pressure to make an effort outside of the agreement. As for trade deals, it's always the case each party wants a good deal and knows it needs to be win/win to get agreement. I trust that the government realises past attempts giving merchants sway over government policy by allowing them to sue if they didn't like legislation passed, were rejected before, and will still be unacceptable now.
Just because a deal will be advantageous to the USA does not mean that it will be disadvantageous to us. All the details can be drawn up, t's crossed, i's dotted ready to come into operation one second after the deadline in March 2019 occurs. Unreserved good news - Kim Jong whatever is far worse news for the world than the Donald.
^^'unreservedly' as I typed grrrrrr!
I agree with that in principle, jourdain, but there's a couple of problems: as I say, that depends rather on what Trump is after, and he's categorically not after mutually beneficial deals with anyone it seems. His track record, his "America First" rhetoric, both speak for that.

And after all, the UK is also about to enter a similar set of negotiations where, you would have thought, both parties would be happy to seek a mutually beneficial outcome. The first round of negotiations with the EU possibly isn't an entirely fair comparison, but still: the attitude seems to be that the EU are adversaries rather than partners when it comes to the impending negotiations and trade arrangements. It's held by many on this site that they're only interested in advancing their own cause, rather than the UK's alongside. Which may be true, but the ultimate point is that if you think the EU is self-absorbed then... well, you ain't seen nothing yet.

jim; //if you think the EU is self-absorbed then... well, you ain't seen nothing yet.//

I'll drink to that. They're not only self-absorbed but deluded, for example the hapless duo, Messrs Junker and Tusk celebrating their great trade deal with Japan making the EU "Global", which is based on a free-market for Japanese goods in exchange for EC food products "mostly dairy", these nit-wits don't know that the Japanese make very high quality cars and don't eat cheese!
This is what Trump said:

There is no country that could possibly be closer than our countries. We are working on a trade deal - a very, very big deal, a very powerful deal, great for both countries, and I think we'll have that done very, very quickly.'

The language is vague, with no specifics.

What does the deal encompass?

Who is negotiating?

Why is the deal not already being discussed by the DTI?

Why has no reports of it leaked?

Trade deals are not like business deals, which are commercially sensitive and therefore kept secret until they are announced.

This just sounds like fluff.
No doubt it will be a tremendous deal , but will Trump be in office by the time brexit is sealed ?
jesus - change of president - change of policy....

OK I promise not to train down to London and show my bottom to the president ....when he comes - eek unfortunate turn of phrase for an old man
// His track record, his "America First" rhetoric, both speak for that. //

yeah Eevarnka opened with that - in his Polish speech
and my god didnt the Poles cheer !
and did they cheer even more to be told by the president of the US that polish purchaes of the american missile suystem was the best thing since well Partition etc
// I'd go so far as to call him corrupt. Just clearly unqualified and there through blatant nepotism.// Jim

yeah after Katrina and FEMA and New Orleans
some bright American politician said " I know ! why dont we have these agencies run by people who are trained to do so rather than presidential cronies"
Yopu can wish Ann, but despite all the attacks from the left nothing concrete has actually been shown.

To indict him you need good solid proff, not the say so of CNN.

As for the deal DT is looking to do of course he will bve looking for American interests just as, I hope, we will be looking after ours. If done correctly there can be a good deal for both sides. DT is half British and far more amenable to us than the pro EU liberal Obama who would not have given us a deal at all. As for the timing I would say if it is done for the minute we pass the dealine to leave then that could be considered very very quickly.
What 'deal'?

What is it?

Is it new?

Is it a renegotiation of a current deal?

Do we not already trade with the US an an independent entity outside the EU?

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