Girl Raped Twice

[fender62]

did not notice this on the main news, unless i missed it, or it was not shown, despicable horrendous thing to do, maybe coordinated, the description both asian looking.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4736452/Girl-15-raped-TWICE-two-different-men-day.html

[anotheoldgit]

Barmaid

/// Yes sadly a very small proportion of men do view women as objects of sexual gratification. ///

How would the human race continue, if both men and women didn't gain sexual gratification from each other?

But classing a woman or even a man as objects, is what's wrong.

[Barmaid]

Couldnt agree more with you AOG.

[ummmm]

AOG...sexual gratification by raping someone?

[Ellipsis]

One barmaid and several bar-stewards on this thread ...

[vetuste_ennemi]

////The phrase "some muslim men...." would have been a perfectly good way of describing it or even "some men of Pakistani descent". Instead, the net has been widened to include ALL Asian men/all muslims. //

Couldn't agree more, Barmaid. But it is not the poster whom you attack who is making this stupid and insulting generalisation, it was and is all of the mainstream media - BBC, TV and press - who use the weasel term "Asian" when what everyone knew and knows is that it's mainly Muslims who were and are the perpetrators.

[vetuste_ennemi]

If the common feature of the assaults had been examined rather than obfuscated or ignored altogether it's possible some humnan suffering could have been avoided.

But I realise that there are higher causes like "social cohesion" and the celebration of "diversity" to be pursued.

[Bigbad]

genuineclAss, you sound like a thoroughly decent person to me, prepared to help others of any race, and therefore, not racist at all.

People seem to disregard the fact that if we hadn’t opened the floodgates to so many foreigners from backwards cultures, we wouldn’t have the problems we have now.

I had the misfortune to go to that foreigner riddled rat hole London, at the weekend.
Whilst my daughter dragged me round a lingerie shop, I saw two women (at least, I presume they were women) swathed from head to foot in the black letter-box outfit, both carrying armfuls of skimpy underwear.
If Muslim men can’t cope with the site of a bare shoulder, what on earth do ‘nice undies’ do? Or even the bag with the name of the shop emblazoned on it!

[vetuste_ennemi]

I remember seeing a photoshot of one of the trials. Wigged counsels everywhere.

Wonder if the bar maid was one of them.

[fiction-factory]

Was it a transparent bag then, Bigbad, that allowed you to get a good look at all this skimpy underwear?

[Bigbad]

No, fiction-factory, they hadn't made it to the checkout at that stage, the undies were being carried around still on the hangers.

[fiction-factory]

I've reread it now Bigbad and get you (and I guess they weren't working there) , but it seems an odd anecdote when the thread is about a dreadful rape

[Mamyalynne]

It was clear to me when I saw and commented on this thread at 00.50 where it would end up - and it has.

I hope they catch these two men and the young girl receives all the help and support she needs.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Oh, by the way, Barmaid (as you bring this up) he members of grooming gangs who've actually been convicted are overwhelmingly Muslim. Mainly "Asian" (i.e. Pakistani), but not all. I think in Bristol the perpetrators were mainly "African", specifically Somali.

The facts are documented exhaustively in Peter McLoughlin's book "Easy Meat".

Interestingly the phenomenon had been observed in the Netherlands (the perpetrators there were mainly "North African" - i.e. Moroccan), and social services there had created a video aimed at young girls describing the techniques used by the groomers. It was produced in an English version called "My Dangerous Lover Boy", and I think social services here were intending to show it at schools. In the event the film was never shown for a variety of reasons which, I suggest, do no credit to the decision-makers.

[Bigbad]

It’s not unusual for a thread to change along the way, fiction-factory. especially one with as many answers as this.

My contribution was aimed at the way genuineclAss seems to have been denigrated, despite the fact that she did a decent thing, and the fact that so many sex crimes are committed by people who bring their backwards culture to our country.

[anotheoldgit]

Bigbad

I am pleased someone else dares to mention that immigration of different cultures is responsible for the increase of such crimes.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1562321.html

[hereIam]

Such a sad post at 12:19 Genuine and I don't see it as a 'rant' rather as someone who knows what he/she is talking about.

[Bigbad]

I also contributed to that thread, AOG.

Saying other cultures are responsible for so many sex related crimes is stating the obvious to me, but the Muslim hugging luvvies would rather scream “racist,” “bigot,” and “xenophobe,” while our prisons become fuller and our streets less safe.

[Mamyalynne]

Screaming, ranting and raving and comments like...

//foreigner riddled rat hole London//

..to give but one example solves nothing.

Every crime of this or any nature should be dealt with promptly and overall the message firmly sent home to all of whatever background that rape (in this particular case under discussion) is intolerable.

[fender62]

another perv getting let out..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4738892/Grooming-gang-boss-pimped-girls-150-time.html

[Bigbad]

I’m neither screaming, ranting or raving.

A foreigner riddled rat hole is exactly how I see London, whether it be in person or on TV footage.

Of course these appalling crimes should be dealt with promptly, but I still maintain that importing other cultures has meant that crimes have been committed, that perhaps wouldn’t have happened otherwise.

You have often been accused of ‘sitting on the fence’ Mamalynne.
You seem to feel the need to comment on so many things without actually having much to say.
I see it more as popping your head over then fence just to say “oh dear me, that’s not nice is it, I hope everything is OK.”

Not a criticism - you can of course, post on as many threads as you like, but at least my less frequent screaming, ranting and raving posts have a bit of substance to them!