Disgusting People, Wish There Was A Law To Stop Them

[trt]

The poor kids! :-(

I think their photo's give you a an idea what type they are, and they probably got well paid for the story!


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/family-mum-daddy-dad-mummy-10978802?ICID=FB_mirror_main

[Sqad]

pixie....;-)

[gness]

Please take no notice of Sqad, Jim.....this one suits me nicely thank you.......xxx

[naomi24]

Jim, //But what I am saying is that if you have questions about your gender identity then they are present whether or not you end up wearing clothes//

I take that as read. As for the clothes, I’m simply trying to comprehend how pretending to yourself and to other people that you’re something you’re not helps your situation. However, I respect your decision not to discuss it further …. not that that goes any way to promoting understanding.

[jim360]

I don't see it as pretending, I see it as being myself.

And if you don't understand that, there's nothing I can say that will really add to it.

[naomi24]

Jim, we'll leave it there.

[Khandro]

jim; Nobody really understands how somebody else feels, though perhaps if they had similar feelings it would go some way towards it. Personally I don't mind what you do, its your life, and incidentally, I think you are very brave to talk about it on here.

[pixie374]

I agree, Khandro- although it is partly the not understanding how others feel, that make me wonder how anyone can identify as "female", say, when they aren't.

[jim360]

Thanks, Khandro.

[-Talbot-]

If people like these two got their way and the world became gender fluid ... wouldn't that make the vast majority of females sports stars redundant?

[naomi24]

Pixie, // it is partly the not understanding how others feel, that make me wonder how anyone can identify as "female", say, when they aren't.//

I am so pleased you said that. My sentiments exactly. Males who say they identify as ‘female’ can, for obvious reasons, only imagine.

[sp1814]

If people like these two got their way and the world became gender fluid

That's brand new information. I hadn't realised that transgendered people want the entire world to be gender fluid.

You learn something new (and rubbish) every day.

[jim360]

It's an interesting point, although on the face of it doesn't that tie being "female" specifically to the biological? And then the entire point of gender identity is that gender isn't necessarily linked to biological sex, even if the two correspond more often than not.

If, then, you don't mind my asking, what does it mean to you to be "female"?

[naomi24]

Jim, Don’t understand that. Biologically, males are males, females are females.

//what does it mean to you to be "female"?//

Not least, knowing I’m not male.

[pixie374]

It's very easy...
female
ˈfiːmeɪl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.
"a herd of female deer"
noun
1.
a female person, animal, or plant.

[-Talbot-]

That's brand new information. I hadn't realised that transgendered people want the entire world to be gender fluid.


Who said that then ... have you got a link, sp?

And what is 'transgendered' when it is at home?

[pixie374]

Even if the whole world was gender fluid, there would still be males and females.

[DaisyNonna]

Poor child

[jim360]

If I am understanding you from the previous page correctly though, pixie, you said that "there always used to be a difference between 'sex' and 'gender'. One was how you were born and one was psychological."

It seems to me that the definition you, and Naomi, are giving is that "female" is sex, ie biology. Does that not leave gender/psychology as a separate thing (at least, a potentially separate thing?)

And it's the fact that they aren't universally linked, and the suggestion that gender roles are largely a social construct rather than a biological necessity, that leads to transgenderism. For most people it will never be an issue; for some their biology and their mentality aren't aligned so 'neatly'.

[pixie374]

Exactly so, Jim. Even the most "feminine" man in the world is still 100% male. The difference in thinking is what he observes in society and is clearly personality rather that sex.

[pixie374]

I wish this thread didn't show up as "disgusting people"...