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Madeline Mccann
I know this has probably been discussed before, but I really thought this would have ended by now. Your thoughts please?
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Ecclescake - //A former colleague who had held a Director level post within the Security Service, i.e. pretty well versed in risk assessment and avoidance. He was familiar with this resort and told me it was common practice for parents to leave their children of an evening whilst having dinner and just popping back now and then to check on the children. //
From my experience, the local people would not be 'popping back to check' on their children - they like they children with them, as all Europeans do. They would have the older ones sitting eating with them, and the little ones asleep in push chairs.
It's only British parents who like to go on holiday and eat out as though they are still not parents. The Europeans, and almost all other nations love and enjoy their children, and embrace their company.
The British largely endure their children, and will act as though they haven't got them if they are at all able.
That is what the McCanns and their friends did, and they have paid the price for their selfishness.
From my experience, the local people would not be 'popping back to check' on their children - they like they children with them, as all Europeans do. They would have the older ones sitting eating with them, and the little ones asleep in push chairs.
It's only British parents who like to go on holiday and eat out as though they are still not parents. The Europeans, and almost all other nations love and enjoy their children, and embrace their company.
The British largely endure their children, and will act as though they haven't got them if they are at all able.
That is what the McCanns and their friends did, and they have paid the price for their selfishness.
douglas - //That 18:37's a bit of a stretch even for Hyperbolic Hughsie.
Maybe some inner guilt being put on the rest of the country but certainly not my experience. //
Not at all.
My eldest children are 42 and 40, and when we took them out to eat as children in restaurants, going back 35 years or more, we were absolutely the exception. People would openly stare at us as we ordered half portions (no childrens' menus then!) and they sat and learned proper table manners and how to eat in public.
Times have changed, and people do take their children out with them - but how many pubs have separate supervised play areas so adults can eat without their children with them?
Our grandchildren eat as their mums did, with the family - I think it's important to spend as much time with your children as you can - not treat them like an inconvenience to be fobbed off to a couple of teenagers to watch them play.
Maybe some inner guilt being put on the rest of the country but certainly not my experience. //
Not at all.
My eldest children are 42 and 40, and when we took them out to eat as children in restaurants, going back 35 years or more, we were absolutely the exception. People would openly stare at us as we ordered half portions (no childrens' menus then!) and they sat and learned proper table manners and how to eat in public.
Times have changed, and people do take their children out with them - but how many pubs have separate supervised play areas so adults can eat without their children with them?
Our grandchildren eat as their mums did, with the family - I think it's important to spend as much time with your children as you can - not treat them like an inconvenience to be fobbed off to a couple of teenagers to watch them play.
Sadly you're right, Andy.....luckily I had one in Canada where she and her older brother were welcomed in restaurants and like you we taught them how to behave there....
And then spending so much time in Ireland where children are part of the family and eat out with them.....
It is very different in this country and that's a shame....
And yes....you're right too, Pixie...about the dog!.....x
And then spending so much time in Ireland where children are part of the family and eat out with them.....
It is very different in this country and that's a shame....
And yes....you're right too, Pixie...about the dog!.....x
andy-hughes
From my experience, the local people would not be 'popping back to check' on their children - they like they children with them, as all Europeans do. They would have the older ones sitting eating with them, and the little ones asleep in push chairs.
It's only British parents who like to go on holiday and eat out as though they are still not parents. The Europeans, and almost all other nations love and enjoy their children, and embrace their company.
The British largely endure their children, and will act as though they haven't got them if they are at all able.
Rowlocks and Drivel.
From my experience, the local people would not be 'popping back to check' on their children - they like they children with them, as all Europeans do. They would have the older ones sitting eating with them, and the little ones asleep in push chairs.
It's only British parents who like to go on holiday and eat out as though they are still not parents. The Europeans, and almost all other nations love and enjoy their children, and embrace their company.
The British largely endure their children, and will act as though they haven't got them if they are at all able.
Rowlocks and Drivel.
Islander, I didn't think for one minute it would go on like this, but this is because people get side tracked, and although I asked if they would read what I posted at 12.19pm, I don't think anyone did.I didn't mean for it to go onto whether or not she was dead or alive, and who did it, but unfortunately that's what happened.
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