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[Islay]

Top welsh labour politician Carl Sargeant is found dead

[Islay]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

[Mamyalynne]

Link here too, very worrying.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/carl-sargeant-found-dead-after-allegations-emerge-over-his-personal-conduct-with-women-a3684196.html

[Islay]

No info yet on cause of death - bit too early for that.

[ummmm]

ITV news - the presumption is he took his own life.

[DTCwordfan]

BBC said he did take his own life. Must be something serious there for him to do that.

[Mamyalynne]

Incredibly sad for his family.

[Togo]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/suspended-welsh-labour-minister-carl-sargeant-found-dead-after-personal-conduct-claims/ar-AAuxCXF?li=BBoPWjQ

[anotheoldgit]

If he did indeed take his own life then the ones who have been hounding him should now realise what this witch-hunt has now caused.

[hc4361]

AOG, you are presuming Sargeant is innocent and that women have made false allegations.
We don't know and I guess we'll never know.

[jno]

perhaps we should see if anyone says what the allegations were, aog? They might be very serious - at any rate they were serious enough to drive him to suicide - and they might be true.

[Togo]

//They might be very serious - at any rate they were serious enough to drive him to suicide - and they might be true. //

Might.
Well he's definitely dead.

[Islay]

Once again AOG you are assuming that the man is innocent and that all women are guilty.

[Togo]

Some are assuming that the allegations are serious and true resulting, "at any rate", in a man committing suicide. Not despair or loss of his job.

[wolf63]

• I don't know what this man was accused of
• I don’t know if this man was guilty or innocent
• I don’t know for certain that he did kill himself

But
If it were me I would be more likely to kill myself if I were innocent.

Accusing any person of such a crime changes their life in every way – innocent or guilty

[naomi24]

Awful - and even more awful if any allegations turn out to be unfounded. This current wave of hysteria is leading us towards a very slippery slope.

[pixie374]

Only for those with a guilty conscience.

[RATTER15]

So AOG, do you suggest that people, male or female that have been sexually assaulted just keep quiet?

[naomi24]

Pixie, was he guilty?

[-Talbot-]

wolf63

• I don't know what this man was accused of



He didn't either did he?

[mikey4444]

This mans suicide is a very unfortunate event....I trust we all agree on that.

But in this current climate, when people are being encouraged to make complaints about sexual harassment, its not possible to keep all the details quite, especially when someone has been dismissed from their duties, suspended from his Party, as was the case with Sargeant.