Minimum Sherbet Price?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-41981909
sensible or punishing all for a few numpties?

[Jackdaw33]

My favourite moment of election night was when Salmond lost his seat to the Tories. There's poetic justice for you.

[EDDIE51]

It's mainly aimed at extra strong cider like Jake Frost , at the moment a 3 litre bottle is under £4 , it will go up to £7.50.
Drunk almost exclusively by alcoholics who can't afford anything better , bit like Special Brew (aka Tramp Juice !)
A bottle of Jack Frost is enough to keep you p***** all day!

[EDDIE51]

Jack Frost ^^

[Togo]

Will the Film Whisky Galore have to be shown on Scottish TV after the "watershed"? (^_*)

[ToraToraTora]

yes I can speak Scottish too! i think this is aimed at the strong supermarket stuff, should not effect pub prices.

[New Judge]

"Some of us need to look at this
http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/cockney_translator/"

That translator is wrong, Eddie.

I have never heard "going for a sherbert" used as rhyming slang for "going for a kip". But I have heard, countless times, people saying they were going for a few "sherberts" meaning they are going up the pub. Further than that, watch a few episodes of "The Sweeney" or "Minder" and you will hear "sherbert" being used as reference to an alcoholic drink. Those productions - especially "Minder" - were written by people that really knew their stuff when it comes to London slang.

Here are a few links explaining its use as a drink (not all of them suggesting it rhymes with "sherbert dip"):

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/the-mystery-hour/culture/why-do-we-call-a-drink-a-sherbert/

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sherbet

http://www.slang-dictionary.org/London-Slang/sherbet

Many alleged provenances of Cockney Rhyming Slang are contrived. The more modern ones especially often provide explanations which are, to say the least, highly dubious.

[maggiebee]

Affect TTT, not effect!

[Jackdaw33]

Difficult to say what is genuine and what is contrived. I suppose slang, like language in general, develops apace. Delboy often used to refer to 'going for a Ruby' but this would have been meaningless before the 50s.

[ToraToraTora]

there is no definitive rhyming slang reference. there are old well established ones like apples and pears etc but equally mainly it evolved with the times so we have new ones all the time. Oddly enough the Scots are big users of rhyming slang too hence. i always thought sherbet dip = sip. I also know of sherbet dab = cab but more recently that's been replaced by Andy McNab.

[Jackdaw33]

The permutations are endless. The trick is to think of what word(s) could naturally follow the first word to give a clue to the rhyme. TTT's use of 'septic' is a prime example.

[New Judge]

"Delboy often used to refer to 'going for a Ruby' but this would have been meaningless before the 50s."

For two reason, jd: Ruby Murray had not become famous and there were very few curry houses in the UK.

[ToraToraTora]

then there's your jeff Hurst and your Desmond Tutu 60s and 80s. It evolves with the times. i enjoy using it but it seems to get a lot of alans in a brahms round here.

[EDDIE51]

Back to basics , is my Wetherspoons pint going up from £1.89 ? It's already £4.65 in the place next door which calls itself a 'Boutique Hotel'

[Jackdaw33]

I am familiar with Geoff, Desmond and Richard for classes of degree but I have never heard of one for a 2:1.

[albaqwerty]

Eddie, if you're in Scotland, it will only affect booze bought from supermarkets or off licences.

[ToraToraTora]

that's an attila JD, Eddie I doubt the battle cruiser prices will vary much. The wetherspoon type places have long undercut the others but they still seem to get people willing to pay their silly prices. This is aimed at the saucepans etc getting brahms on a ready and willing.

[douglas9401]

No Eddie, it's a proposed 50p/unit of alcohol so about two quid a pint minimum depending on the strength.

[Jackdaw33]

Kids getting p***** on a shilling?

[albaqwerty]

3T, I do wish, at times, you would talk TGL's English and stop spouting drivel.
Makes your points/comments appear childish.

[EDDIE51]

^ I second that .