White Fright: Divided Britain

[vetuste_ennemi]

...shown on BBC's Panorama last night. I was expecting to see a thread about it and am a little surprised not to find one. The Panorama team returns to Blackburn ten years after showing a program investigating social integration in the town and asks the question "What's changed?".

Did you watch it? What did you think?

[Khandro]

What had changed? - let me guess

[dave50]

It's human nature to stick to what you know and are familiar with. You cant force people from totally different backgrounds and religions to integrate if they don't want to I'm afraid. That's why multiculturalism is a pipe dream no matter how much it's forced on people. Get used to it.

[Buenchico]

Programme summary here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42766211

[dave50]

Look at some of the Brits who go to line in Spain. What do they do? Create there own little British community within Spain. Same thing.

[Mamyalynne]

I didn't see the programme and perhaps should have watched being but a stones throw away, I have read a good summary and I'm not really surprised.

A few moves to get the young people together is good, let's hope for more.

One sad remark stood out from an Asian Gentleman - ' Given the recent spate of terror attacks, we find ourselves having to apologise for others more and more'.

It takes more than two people shaking hands on a bridge aiming to check back again in another decade to alter things , more from all sides must show willing.

[emmie]

dave
it always helps when you relocate some place that you speak the language, so those expats should learn Spanish or a semblance, those who come here should speak English, many don't, or perhaps won't.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thanks for the link, Buenchico. For those who didn't see the program that's a fair summary.

[naomi24]

I saw it. Interesting that the veil is more in evidence than it was ten years ago. I think that speaks volumes. Additionally I’d be willing to bet that of those children playing football none of them are students at the Islamic faith schools that are cause for concern. Disappointing that no government spokesman was willing to be interviews and that the local council appeared reluctant to address the issue, preferring instead to praise the ‘diversity’ in the town. Ostrich syndrome is rife among the powers that be.

[tamborine]

Similar to Southall thats mostly sikh. The gurdwara buys shops & properties to rent to their parishioners. Mosques do same for their own. When the businesses flourish, properties are purchased. Its for control of their parish to thrive.

[naomi24]

tambourine, //Similar to Southall thats mostly sikh.//

I think the issue here is culture, not property. The Sikh culture doesn't compare to the Muslim culture.

[tamborine]

Agreed naomi but the method of populating areas is the same.

[Garaman]

//You cant force people from totally different backgrounds and religions to integrate if they don't want to I'm afraid. That's why multiculturalism is a pipe dream no matter how much it's forced on people.//

I didn't watch the programme, but does multiculturalism have to mean integration? I was under the impression that it just meant that different cultures could coexist, not that they had necessarily to integrate. London for sure has long had pockets of different cultures that never really integrated. Even those in the richer white areas never integrated with those in the poorer white areas.

[sinderella]

The local paper is called the lancashire telegraph
look at this story online and then read the comments section

[tonyav]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/15890188.BBC_Panorama_White_Fright___Blackburn_IS_more_divided_/

[andres]

Permission has just been granted for a boys only Islamic school for 800 pupils. How will that help with integration. ?

[emmie]

andres
it won;t help, this is what's happening in Britain, more and more faith schools where little or no integration takes place. As to London it wasn't full to brimming with blacks or asians, i should know as i have spent a lifetime here and the fact is that certain peoples have arrived and made their homes here, same came to only stay for a little while but never went home. Mass exodus from Uganda meant more Asians came to Britain as they had British passports.. If you knew London in my mothers/grandmothers day then its changed out of all recognition.
I dated any number of black guys back in the 70's and believe me it was frowned upon even hated by some white communities.

[Zacs-Master]

Why is the question titled 'white fright'?

Is there any evidence of any one, at all, being 'frightened' by this.

has anyone been to Blackburn? President Trump's recent gaff about Syrian towns springs to mind.

[emmie]

and black communities alike, before someone mentions it. Asian communities are close knit, not much integration there. Perhaps our young people will break the mould and be more inter relationship bound,

[Mamyalynne]

Zacs, that was the title of the programme.

[Zacs-Master]

Birds of a feather........

Human nature i'm afraid, especially when the 'birds' are the target of racial abuse.