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Everyday Racism Or Sensible Business Practices?

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sp1814 | 08:24 Tue 01st May 2018 | News
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I’m going for the former.

This is clearly prejudiced behaviour (in that the waiter was prejudging the customers based on their race alone).

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43954750
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jackdaw - // If I go to the local Chinese/Indian takeaway I pay when I order, before my meal arrives. I have no problem with that. // I think that's standard practice for most takeaways, for obvious reasons. But if your takeaway asked you to pay in advance, but not the next customer who is Chinese or Indian, then that would be racism, and that is what happened here.
10:40 Tue 01st May 2018

Where does it say the Dine and Dashers were homeless?
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right oh! PMSL!
So if insurers' statistics showed that black drivers overwhelmingly caused the most accidents would they be justified in charging them the highest premiums? Leave aside the fact that they could not as it would be illegal (because they are protected by equality laws whereas young people are not). Would it be justified if they could?
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AOG

Would your position be the same if the customer were, say - a soldier?

Let’s say an establishment had previously had issues with members of the forces, and decided to enact a policy whereby servicemen were refused service. Would you back the restaurant/hotel/bar, or would you deem their actions beyond the pale?
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Baldric

They weren’t. The restaurant owners claimed that they asked the black diners to pay beforehand because they had problem with transients (homeless) eating then running.
"Would your position be the same if the customer were, say - a soldier?" - if soldiers had been demonstrated to do a runner on a regular basis, yes.
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"Let’s say an establishment had previously had issues with members of the forces, and decided to enact a policy whereby servicemen were refused service. Would you back the restaurant/hotel/bar, or would you deem their actions beyond the pale?"

I would accept that they had chosen to minimise their risk based on their experiences. More than that I have visited establishments garrison towns where Pongos are not welcome.
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would we be having this discussion if they had chosen to charge white people up front?
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NJ

You’re extrapolating without reason.

Insurance companies have statistics which they rely on in order to build a profile on which they will create premium charges right?

Well, this restaurant had nothing to back themselves up. They simply said, “Oh, we’ve had problems with homeless people eating and running.”

They had no way of telling whether the black diners were homeless. Sometimes racism is simply racism. I can understand (really, I can) when people complain of the racism card being played, but we need to be a bit level-headed here and recognise when real racism happens.

This is what it boils down to. These blokes were subjected to racial profiling and treated negatively because of their race. Whatever reason the waiter had is irrelevant because these customers WERE NOT THIEVS AND BLACK PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS THEIVES AS A DEFAULT.
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I would accept their right to charge up front any group that had demonstrated that they are a flight risk. White, Black, Oriental, military etc, all equal to me.
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“would we be having this discussion if they had chosen to charge white people up front?”

Yes, we would.

Definitely.

The soldier question is aimed at AOG.
SP 16:42, how do you know what research/statistics gathering they had done? do share your source.
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