Trump ‘ A Cross Between Nixon And Tony Soprano’?

[Zacs-Master]

More corruption proven around POTUS. Shame!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/21/donald-trump-paul-manafort-michael-cohen-tony-soprano

[albaqwerty]

Andy !! What on earth has poor Dougal ever done to you?

Am not so sure about a witch-hunt re. Trump, maybe it's possible that his 'enemies' know they won't be able to indict him and are going after his friends who appear to have been monumental liars.

[ichkeria]

Trump would surely be in jail by now were he not president.
Quite what coukd be serious enough to bypass mere impeachment I’m not sure. Misappropriating campaign funds to pay off hookers won’t do it it seems.

[Peter Pedant]

ttrump reading from the crotch

[Peter Pedant]

um leading
no ill humoured jokes about one eyed.....

[ichkeria]

I guess the catch 22 is: if he hadn’t done what he did he’d not now be president :-)

[jim360]

Here's evidence to suggest that Trump was more interested in becoming president than being one:

1 -- apparently unware of the demands of the job:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-100days/exclusive-trump-says-he-thought-being-president-would-be-easier-than-his-old-life-idUSKBN17U0CA

2 -- Playing golf so far 147 times since becoming president, more than doubling the rate Obama achieved (similarly, he has visited Mar-A-Lago, ie his holiday resort, at least 10 times in 2017 alone, including four times in the first month):

https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsnetteam/2018/08/15/donald-trump-visited-golf-147-times-president-110531/

3 -- Surprise at winning:

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-12-14/donald-trump-admits-he-was-a-little-surprised-at-election-outcome

4 -- Horror at winning:

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-donald-jr-and-melania-never-thought-trump-would-become-president-769701

Source 4 is disputed by the White House, naturally, and one should be wary of taking claims from a book designed to make money as gospel, but it nevertheless fits nicely into a pattern. Trump has been a fairly successful businessman, and being President disrupts that, although campaigning didn't.

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As to evidence that Trump admires strong men, I could refer you to the time he quoted Mussolini (and then refused to accept that this was a problem), or the many admiring things he has said about Trump, Erdogan, Duterte, and Kim Jong Un, among others. Similarly, the "enemy of the people" refrain is directly out of the Stalinist/Soviet school of thought.

It's not difficult to find these -- draw from them the conclusions you wish, but that he admires strong men is beyond doubt.

That's just a handful of the evidence I can think of to draw on -- in the meantime, the best you can come up appears to be one piece of totally misinterpreted satire, two times I've ignored you, and one attempt at a joke. Not a brilliant track record, to say the least.

[jim360]

The golf thing is relevant, by the way, because of all the times on the campaign trail that Trump loudly (and, in my opinion and not incidentally either, quite rightly!) criticised Obama for the amount of times *he* played golf. Since Trump is on track to smash Obama's record, that also makes him a hypocrite.

[ichkeria]

Well he’s smashed his golf record!

[Peter Pedant]

// If Trump found a cure for cancer you’d condemn.....//

erm hullo - he hasnt - everyone,

and if he were canonised whilst alive by Pope Francis
he's be incarcerated for child abuse

but he isnt either- either

did someone just post - pitchforks in full flow ?
Does anyone think about what they post?

[jim360]

"...or the many admiring things he has said about Trump..."

As it happens this is also true... But I meant "the admiring things he has said about Putin. Freudian slip?

[Peter Pedant]

// I guess the crotch 22 is: if he hadn’t done what he did he’d not now be president :-) //

I agree - he cant say that he did what was necessary to be become president - a glittering prize worth er screwing everyone for

[naomi24]

Cough ....righto, Jim.

[jim360]

"Where's your evidence?"

*Presents evidence*

"..."

Any chance of at least acknowledging the error over the satirical post that you misinterpreted?

[naomi24]

I didn’t misinterpret it. It was intended to ridicule. Nothing new there.

[jim360]

I know it's a radical concept, but the person who writes something is usually best-placed to know what they intended when writing it -- not you.

I was ridiculing someone, yes, but not Donald Trump. I've remembered the name now, it was Bill Maher.

[naomi24]

As I said, righto Jim .....

[Kromovaracun]

Bravo Jim.

I'm getting really sick of the cynical aspersions being used against posters on this site. Especially as it always seems to come up when anyone has anything negative to say about the most powerful man in the world.

Who, let's not allow ourselves to forget, has just been implicated by his own lawyer in a crime.

[naomi24]

Krom, I’m getting sick of cynical aspersions too…

[Peter Pedant]

Jimbo if anyone wishes to defend Trump they can

some of Shipman's patients thought he was er innocent....
and Lulu-belle Nixon starmped around the country at the very end saying ' my father is nart a criminal '.....

[jim360]

Returning to the story, here is what Trump said on April 21st, 2018:

//The New York Times ... are going out of their way to destroy Michael Cohen and his relationship with me in the hope that he will 'flip.' They use non-existent 'sources' and a drunk/drugged up loser who hates Michael, a fine person with a wonderful family. [i]Michael is a businessman for his own account/lawyer who I have always liked & respected.[i] Most people will flip if the Government lets them out of trouble, even if it means lying or making up stories. Sorry, I don’t see Michael doing that despite the horrible Witch Hunt and the dishonest media! //

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/987679848284999680

(my italics)

Here is Trump today:

// If anyone is looking for a good lawyer, I would strongly suggest that you don’t retain the services of Michael Cohen! ... I feel very badly for Paul Manafort ... unlike Michael Cohen, he refused to “break” - make up stories in order to get a “deal.” Such respect for a brave man!//

Ah, well. Better luck picking your friends next time!

Interesting to see Trump sticking with Manafort so solidly, though, even to the point of putting "justice" -- as in, the verdict of a jury of US citizens, reached after four days of deliberations, that lies at the heart of the US legal system -- in inverted commas, as if he doesn't trust the verdict of the jury. I was not at all surprised by his derision of the prosecution case, but after a verdict has been reached it seems a bizarre decision.