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The Scout Movement Goes Islamic.

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anotheoldgit | 09:46 Sun 09th Sep 2018 | News
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6146863/Can-Scouts-canoe-lessons-wearing-Islamic-veil.html

What next will Muslim women be able to wear their Burkas while serving in HM Forces? After all Sikhs are allowed to wear their turbans.
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Why does cultural or even religious bias have to be accommodated in certain situations!?? Whatever one is doing it should be relevant to the circumstances, not given to bias in any form! The Scouts, girl guides and Brownies are from here....we should NOT give in to religious or cultural thoughts IMO. What most people don't think of is....wht other countries...
16:57 Sun 09th Sep 2018
I just read the article.....he's a proper mouthy little git isn't he?
Baden-Powell must be turning in his grave.
If she actually does go on the water instructing fellow canoeist in that hideous apparel then she is a danger to herself and the pupils she is supposed to instruct. I agree with the bloke
I suspect though,that she probably has a lightweight swimming burqua that I have seen Muslim women wearing on the shore.
As someone said on a previous thread a woman weighted down with that clothing would sink like a stone. She does look intimidating with those gloves as well.
I am not sure JD, he was a huge agent for change in his day.....
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woofgang

No need to be so offensive towards him, just because you do not support free speech.
I think he was spot on until he started on comments about what she looked like. I think a lot of people look ridiculous and I laugh and snigger at them behind my hand but for tHe most part they are allowed to look however they like.

I agree with him on how can she be safe, let alone the kids, in that getup during water sports or other dangerous things scouts do?

Does her scout group have boys and girls? I know girls were mentioned.
BCU rules state a canoeist should be able to swim 50m in light clothing. Could she?
They are to wear a safety helmet. Could she ?
///He and his wife Annie are evangelical Christians – just like Chief Scout Bear Grylls – and Mr Walker was unhappy with a gushing profile of Mrs Kothdiwala ‘in her full Islamic veil’.
‘How sad and disappointed I am,’ Mr Walker wrote, ‘that the whole Scout mission is to push a politically correct agenda of multi-faith brain washing, anything that denigrates Christianity. In the magazine, children are encouraged to visit a Sikh temple or a mosque yet for a St George’s Day celebration are told “choose your venue carefully, the use of non-religious buildings can ensure the event is welcome to all”.///

The DM states..... "Clearly, Mr Walker, 63, is a man with robust opinions and a ripe turn of phrase....." which suggests to me that he has been quite forthright in his opinions on this matter and not just once.

It strikes me that, initially, he took offence because of the sympathetic treatment of an Islamic scout leader.....only bolting on the H&S aspect when he realised that he had dug a great big hole for himself.
"I promise to do my duty to God, the Queen and my country". Can a Moslem recite that with any sincerity?
sure JD why not?
AOG, that's my right to free speech
the point of the burqa is to hide a female form from males. Why is she then casting herself to males?
tambo. I have no idea what you mean by "casting herself to males"?
Burkas MUST be in camouflage colours !
I hope she never attempts the Devizes to Westminster canoe race.
Portaging all those locks with a loaded canoe full of camping gear at the run would be impossible for her in a Burqua.
The scout movement hasn’t ‘gone Islamic’ at all. It quite rightly welcomes people of all faiths. The leap from a scout leader wearing a niqab to the armed forces allowing serving soldiers to wear a burka is plainly ridiculous.
He may be a religious nut but...

//In the magazine, children are encouraged to visit a Sikh temple or a mosque yet for a St George’s Day celebration are told “choose your venue carefully, the use of non-religious buildings can ensure the event is welcome to all//


There's a good chance he is not making that up.


But we accept it... Wouldn't want to appear racist, would we.
" Throughout the controversy, Mrs Kothdiwala, has retained a dignified silence."
How can you have an undignified silence?
AOG's headline is somewhat behind the times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Muslim_Scouts

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