Subconcious Racism Or Valid Precaution?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45818176

[spathiphyllum]

"Jim, if I had a reason to suspect that something might be amiss I’d question it. "

Ironic you only apply that ideology to race and not to other things such as politics.

[Spicerack]

Pretty sure Jim would be 'in your gang', spath.
Won't be for much longer if he can translate that post.

[ludwig]

I repeat, you can't assume she's racist unless you know she would have treated a white man with a couple of black kids differently - ie ignored them.

[naomi24]

^Quite right.

Spath, //Ironic you only apply that ideology to race and not to other things such as politics. //

What are you on about now?

[andy-hughes]

Ludwig - // I repeat, you can't assume she's racist unless you know she would have treated a white man with a couple of black kids differently - ie ignored them. //

Is that an argument?

Seriously?


Because no-one saw this woman behaving in a similar fashion towards a white man with black children, we 'can't assume she is a racist'?

Trust me, I am not 'assuming' she is a racist!!!

[ludwig]

// Is that an argument? //

Yes. You have to either view or treat races differently to be racist.

// Trust me, I am not 'assuming' she is a racist!!! //

Yes you are, unless there's some part of this story I haven't seen and you have, where she said or did something racist. Either that or you know her personally of course.

Perhaps we should stick to the facts and ease off on the hysterical virtue signalling.

[andy-hughes]

Ludwig - // Yes you are, unless there's some part of this story I haven't seen and you have, where she said or did something racist. //

She said something racist, and then she did something racist.

She approached this man and asked to speak to the children.

Now we can pretend that she's been approaching white men with white children and black men with black children all day long, and asking if their children are OK, but we both know that is not really very likely.

It is quite clear to anyone at all that she only approached this one individual because he is black, and the children with him are white, and in her mind, this meant that there was something wrong in the situation.

Despite it being clear from the children's demeanour that they were perfectly happy, she then followed the man for an hour, and called the police.

Considering that this man was going about his lawful business, and had given no indication that he was behaving improperly, and that the children in his care gave no indication that they were under any duress whatsoever, there is only one reasonable conclusion that can be drawn here -

This woman decided that a black man with white children was probably trying to abduct them, and her approach to him, and her subsequent behaviour cannot reasonably lead to any other conclusion, than she targeted him as a black man based entirely on the colour pf his skin, and the skin of the two children in his charge.

Now if you can spin that as something other than racist behaviour, then I cannot, and we must agree to differ.

[Bazile]

I'll pose this question again

//What would she have done if the children were black and the bloke was white ?//

What do you think ?

[andy-hughes]

Bazille - // 'll pose this question again

//What would she have done if the children were black and the bloke was white ?//

What do you think ? //

Personally speaking - based on her behaviour, I think she would do nothing, because white men are OK, black men are not.

[naomi24]

Bazile, I've already indicated that anyone concerned for the safety of children would probably have done the same. I would.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // Bazile, I've already indicated that anyone concerned for the safety of children would probably have done the same. I would. //

I would too, to be clear.

But the difference is, I would need some more evidence of wrongdoing and distress than the colour of the adult and the colour of the children being different, to assume that something was not right.

I am sure you would too.

[naomi24]

You would do what you would do and I would do what I would do.

[Bazile]

//Bazile, I've already indicated that anyone concerned for the safety of children would probably have done the same. I would.//

So in this case, what made her concerned about the safety of the children ?

[naomi24]

Bazile, why are you asking that when it's been discussed through 9 pages.

[Bazile]

Well , if someone has answered that question already , then i apologise for asking .
I have not waded through the entire thread

I think it's a very pertinent question to include in the discussion

[andy-hughes]

Bazile - // So in this case, what made her concerned about the safety of the children ? //

He was a black man with white children in a southern US state - it's pretty obvious he must be up to no good.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // You would do what you would do and I would do what I would do. //

But would you need a little more evidence that colour difference before you started enquiring?

[-Talbot-]

andy-hughes
Since behaviour like this makes me ashemed to be white, I can live with a little dserved sarcasm aimed at people of my colour who can't behave in a civilised fashion.




What a strange thing to say.

[Bazile]

Well AH , that's not an unreasonable conclusion to draw

[Bazile]

^^^^
Re your post of 18:04