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Vagus | 17:40 Fri 19th Oct 2018 | News
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When the referendum took place I didn’t believe what either side were saying and looked at what I thought would be best both for me, my family and the country and voted remain.
Now that we are leaving I’m trying to see the positive and see how it’s going to improve things for me and my family in particular and I’m struggling to see any benefit.
I’ve noticed that lots of people on here seem very keen Brexiters so can you tell me how you see the benefits of leaving to you and your family. Do you see yourselves being better off etc?
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I didn't vote because I didn't think it'd make the slightest difference to the ordinary bloke, whether in or out. I still think that. It's only the money people that stand to gain. Us great unwashed will be ripped off, whatever the outcome!
A resounding Yes from me. Irrespective of any adverse economic effects I would rather stand free than kneel in slavery to Brussels.
^ Ditto.
You sound extraordinarily selfish. Even by Remainer standards.
Vagus...lots of people on here are very keen Brexiteers because it goes with the demographic of most of the posters, and their mental state.
Here we go. Stick to the point, ***.
I typed eff, eff, ess there but it was blanked out.
//so can you tell me how you see the benefits of leaving to you and your family. Do you see yourselves being better off etc? //

For Me? No long term gain. But for my ancestors and fellow British the real benefit of freedom from an dictatorial, non elected, self serving inward looking ponzi scheme.
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Spice rack, how does that make me selfish?
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Not felt in slavery to Brussels for the last 40 years.
So far it seems people are trotting out sound bites that were used in the referendum a couple of years ago.
IMO...if you are young then you will have no idea of life before the federal Europe! I have. We can manage without this unelected farcical costly 'government'. We do NOT NEED THEM.... We were doing ok before this fiasco. My pal in Latvia said to me some yrs back....do not go with a Federal Europe. We did here and they want a federal Euro state. I believed her...she was a teacher and told it like it was. No deal! We leave, we leave it really is as simple as that ! What The Funicular is so difficult. A vote and yet it is the WRONG VOTE. Fgs....it was a fair vote so why, why the undecided?
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Dunnitall, I agree, it was a fair vote and we are leaving. It’s NOT right to try and call for another vote.
I just can’t see any real benefit of leaving. Does anyone who voted leave really believe the NHS will get all this money that was shown on the Brexit bus for instance.
My mental state is absolutely fine and I voted to leave.

I decided in 1992 (look it up if you’re unsure of the significance) that if ever given the opportunity to vote on the matter, I would vote to leave. The economic advantages of a common trading bloc are obvious. Unfortunately the cost in loss of sovereignty to the UK are simply not worth the advantages. The UK has suffered an enormous democratic deficit where UK politicians (of all colours) have successively signed away the country’s right to determine its own affairs. These disadvantages are not apparent when looking at other international trading arrangements and there is no reason why they should be so in the EU.

So when I voted to leave I did not consider the financial advantages or disadvantages I might enjoy or suffer. I voted leave so that the UK could regain its status as an independent sovereign state (the same as most normal countries across the world) rather than a province of a European Federal State governed by unelected foreign civil servants.

Unfortunately this aspect of our departure has been largely overlooked and instead people seem far more concerned about whether they will still be able to take their dog on holiday to the continent with them.
Have you asked your Barista, Vagus? We know how you "value" his sage opinion.
Vagus...I respect your opinion. Depends on what it is and how old you are! My age, we know life before the European con.... It was fine and can be fine again. People are being brainwashed IMO that life will not be good after coming out of the federal Europe state. Believe me. Been there, done that. Don't believe the hype and scaremongering PLEASE. THE europhiles are there to turn your head....don't be led by them....know what is right...please x
Others who voted to Leave have expressed my opinions very eloquently. I, personally do not expect any financial advantage(in fact, I expect things to be a little difficult for a few years as I am on a limited income) but the fact that I shall live my last years in freedom outweighs all that. Younger people do not know the onus and joy that freedom and independence brings.


I voted to leave the oppressive, controlling EU (having lived in France for 15 years and with many friends on the continent) not for me, but for the future of my children and grandchildren. It is ironic that my children think that I must have run mad. I voted to give them their own country and control over their own destiny. Hope this helps.


As a PS, I think that 20 years hence the country will be more prosperous and a much better place to live in than any on the continent of Europe.
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New Judge, I thought our MEP’s had a say in matters and don’t we have a veto?
I get what you say about some loss of sovereignty but what would we change that would make a difference to where we are today.
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Jourdain2 how are you going to get your freedom? This is what I don’t understand about Brexit. What is going to happen to you Jourdain2 to give you this freedom?

/// But for my ancestors and fellow British the real benefit of
freedom ///

"For my ancestors", how does that work then?
So simple, why do you need telling? No-one else tells my country what to do or how to live. You must have grown up under the EEC/EU. We have control of our laws and if we don't like them we vote out the ones who passed them and get other in.

Anyway, I must make dinner now. ;)

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