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Parliament Would Never Say Yes, But With The Increase In Savage Murders, If They Were To Hold A Referendum For The Return Of Capital Punishment Would The British Public Vote Overwhelmingly 'yes'?

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anotheoldgit | 12:49 Sun 04th Nov 2018 | News
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Where do you draw the line?

This one was extremely savage and deserves to be executed, this one a little less savage, does he deserve to be executed. This one murdered a policeman doing his duty but less savage. This husband knifed his nagging wife in pique....where do you draw the line?
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andy-hughes

/// I'm sure you will excuse me if I don't join you in a stroll down a semantic cul-de-sac which takes us off the thread. ///

The types of words used when one is beaten in argument.

As regards being "taken off thread" are you, yourself the guilty party?


SK - // Avatar Image Rockrose


There were more than one Hindley?

14:42 Sun 04th Nov 2018


Possibly, lol. //

LOL????

Seriously?

Maybe you are not old enough for adult debate.
I am just a simple soul, a soldier was horrendously slaughtered in plain sight in front of many witnesses. Any thing else is totally immaterial.
AOG - // andy-hughes

/// I'm sure you will excuse me if I don't join you in a stroll down a semantic cul-de-sac which takes us off the thread. ///

The types of words used when one is beaten in argument. //

I am not beaten in the argument at all - I am carrying on the argument which is about Capital Punishment, not the part played but civilians in warfare.

// As regards being "taken off thread" are you, yourself the guilty party? //

Clearly not, on the basis of what I have just said.
Maybe you are not old enough for adult debate.

14:49 Sun 04th Nov 2018


And, on that note, I shall bow out and leave the obviously more intelligent and mature contributors to continue on here, bye.
SK - // I am just a simple soul, a soldier was horrendously slaughtered in plain sight in front of many witnesses. Any thing else is totally immaterial. //

That is indeed the view of a 'simple soul' - but here in the adult and real world, we have concepts like a justice system and the right to a fair trial, and we don't jump to knee-jerk conclusions based on the horror of what we see.
JJ109 - // Where do you draw the line?

This one was extremely savage and deserves to be executed, this one a little less savage, does he deserve to be executed. This one murdered a policeman doing his duty but less savage. This husband knifed his nagging wife in pique....where do you draw the line? //

An excellent point.

Who is going to judge the level of severity where death is appropriate?

Who indeed ...
What would have happened to the Birmingham Six had hanging been possible?
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jackthehat

/// AOG - I haven't made any personal comment to you, please try to refrain from making any to me. ///

You have chosen to join in the debate so you are open for all to comment on what you put.

Incidentally, I think you will find that SparklyKid was addressing AH so perhaps you should practice what you preach to others?
AOG - // You have chosen to join in the debate so you are open for all to comment on what you put. //

So why not restrict yourself to responses to what Jack has posted, and leave your personal assumptions about her reasons out of it, as she has requested.
Corby - // What would have happened to the Birmingham Six had hanging been possible? //

Well, we could issue posthumous pardons, and re-bury them in consecrated ground I suppose.

Not really much of a 'sorry', but hey, that's the risk you take if you get yourself wrongly convicted in a backwards barbaric society that murders its criminals.
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andy-hughes

/// No-one disputes that Lee Rigby was murdered, or who murdered him, but neither you or anyone else can say with any degree of certainty, that there may not be evidence yet to be discovered, that could shed light on reasons why they did it, and that evidence could alter the appropriate sentence. ///

You admit that he was murdered and by whom, so that is a step in the right direction at least.

But seeking any other evidence is futile, therefore the death penalty would be appropriate, with no further excuses, they did it they are put down, just like one would put down a mad dog or any other animal, but to class those two as animals is an insult to animals.
no i don't think overall they would.
there is no such thing as 100% certainty, but plenty of innocent people were found guilty and hanged in the days of capital punishment. Innocent people continue to be found guilty now; happily, they are no longer murdered by the state.
Yes, we should have the death penalty for baby and child murderers and if I had MY way for pet killers too. But, I know it's never gonna happen.

Who the hell is Doc ?????
i would happily see the back of terrorists, child killers, and the like but it ain;t going to happen, not in my lifetime, or any other time in between.
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andy-hughes

/// So why not restrict yourself to responses to what Jack has posted, and leave your personal assumptions about her reasons out of it, as she has requested. ///

Didn't she intervene in your defence, so what is good for the goose..... as they say.
ANOTHEOLDGIT, what do you say about the case of the Birmingham Six?
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andy-hughes

/// I am not beaten in the argument at all - I am carrying on the argument which is about Capital Punishment, not the part played but civilians in warfare. ///

// As regards being "taken off thread" are you, yourself not the guilty party? //

/// Clearly not, on the basis of what I have just said. ///

Are you not the one who first put:

/// Civilian casualties are the innocent victims in a war - soldiers are there to perform their function, which is to kill opposing soldiers, I can't see any 'innocent people' in that scenario. ///

Guilty has proven, off to the gallows with you. :0)

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