As Tomorrow’S Vote Is Off, What Next?

[sp1814]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vote-delayed-postponed-theresa-may-commons-parliament-date-time-eu-deal-cabinet-a8675906.html

[jim360]

Sorry for being flippant, emmie. It's just that this entire political saga is frightening and fascinating in equal measure. May as well enjoy the drama rather than seize up in fear.

[emmie]

yes it will, incredible...^^

[emmie]

jim
i knew you were but its fascinating in a gory sense.
perhaps May is going to stand down??

[emmie]

12.54 was to Naomi

[dannyk13]

Corbyn must be on cloud nine.

[cassa333]

I thought on another thread Jim had said he wasn’t going to watch it? Unless that was someone different.

There is no way May and by association the Conservative party any good.

She has damaged their reputation and nothing she does now will change that.

Even if she were to get the best deal in the world she is damaged goods and a millstone round the parties neck.

[emmie]

cassa that was my thread yesterday, asking who is going to watch the vote, though i didn't realise it wasn't due until 7pm.
perhaps she is intending to resign. I think she should by the way.

[dannyk13]

Cassa, she cant get a better deal as Barnier has stated that there will not be any further negotiations.
Just on news May is going to make a statement in the commons at 3pm.

[emmie]

two hours to go, crikey, how will we wait and bear it.........

[mushroom25]

//Cassa, she cant get a better deal as Barnier has stated that there will not be any further negotiations. //

sooooo - how is Mr Corbyn going to get a better deal in the face of no further negotiation?

[naomi24]

She can't possibly be playing for time surely?

[Gromit]

And so the omnishambles rumbles on.

It was always going to be a pointless exercise, and an inevitable defeat.

I assume the vote is posponed rather than cancelled. So her deal will be voted down eventually. Then Plan B will suddenly be on the table, but there is no certainty that MPs will accept that either.

May will have to resign/be removed. Then a process of electing a new Tory leader from the dross available will delay things further.

I’m guessing we will ask for an extension to the 29 March deadline, and the EU will grant it.

I would not be surprised if a General Election and a rerun referendum do not figure in next years timetable also.

[ludwig]

// sooooo - how is Mr Corbyn going to get a better deal in the face of no further negotiation? //

He can't. Labour's position is just one of trying to use the present crisis/shambles to try and get into power. They don't seem to be particularly interested in Brexit other than for that purpose.

[naomi24]

//Then Plan B will suddenly be on the table//

What's Plan B?

[sp1814]

Should’ve written ‘postponed’.

[Gromit]

ludwig
The majority of Conservative MPs do not want to Leave the EU. Ditto Labour and the sprinkling of LibDems.
The political stalemate can only be broken by asking the people again, whether by a General Election or a Stay referendum a la 1975.

The shambles has nothing to do with Corbyn, it is of the Government’s own making. And Corbyn hasn’t really milked the Government disarray like he could have done. Rather than make matters worse, he has largely done little Opposing. Corbyn is probably more guilty of being a poor Oppostion than being a political opportunist.

[cassa333]

Plan B, Naomi is stick our heads in the sand and let the EU kick our backsides till we bleed.

After that whoever is in power will crawl over broken glass to be either be let back in, stay in or beg for scraps.

Not one of them will have the guts to do what they were mandated to do by the 2016 referendum.

The UK will then be the sad and pathetic place the remainers wanted us to be.

[gulliver1]

She is probably going to announce a second referendum at 3.30,
anything could happen now.

[Old_Geezer]

I can't see any minor offers from the EU is going to change a pig's ear into a silk purse. No point in basically doing the EU trick of changing something in the hope that MPs or the people are gullible enough to change their opinion.

[naomi24]

Cassa at 13:23, ah, same old then. And there's me thinking Gromit knew something we didn't.