Donate SIGN UP

How Can This Be Glibly Dismissed As Project Fear - It's Happening Now Thanks To Brexit.

Avatar Image
Canary42 | 21:48 Sun 24th Feb 2019 | News
99 Answers
Seems like we've lost a very valuable trading partner.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/japanese-aren-t-daft-why-080019995.html

To me it makes chilly reading.

For example
[In the 1980s this is where consensus was reached that Margaret Thatcher’s commitment to the European single market and customs union, along with her labour market reforms, offered a major opportunity for Japanese business. It would allow Britain to be the place where Japan could develop its famed “just-in-time” delivery system by sourcing production across Europe, without tariffs, regulatory and customs checks, and foster the recruitment and management of talent Europe-wide. They took her at her word, and the investment boom that has transformed the British car industry was born.

Today, a new Japanese consensus has formed. The Conservative party and its leaders cannot be trusted. They ignore warnings, break their word and do not understand business – personified by Old Etonians Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg. Brexit is a first-order disaster, striking at the heart of how Japanese companies organise themselves as "lean manufacturers. "]
Gravatar

Answers

21 to 40 of 99rss feed

First Previous 1 2 3 4 5 Next Last

Best Answer

No best answer has yet been selected by Canary42. Once a best answer has been selected, it will be shown here.

For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.
At least three large Japanese companies have already moved their headquarters out of the UK to the EU. At least Honda has not done that
Fujitsu are closing their plant in Germany, is that due to brexit too?
cassa the EU Japan deal will benefit the Japanese based car industry. That is what it is intended
for. As well as benefitting EU exporters. They already do very well out of their EU based car manufacturing in tariff and customs terms: all that is about to change for them hate. As I said before it would actually make little sense for them to move all their production back to Japan just because of wanting to provide more jobs for Japanese workers. Except that it will in the case of the UK now. In addition no one denies there are other factors beyond Brexit affecting the global car industry.
This is terrible. Which EU country are the Japanese moving their business to? It's not clear from the story.
If you mean Honda Swindon it isn’t moving it’s closing. Production will carry on elsewhere in existing plants.
Plants in the EU?
I don’t know where their plants are. A few here a few there ;-)
I'm interested in changing attitudes to capitalism.

In the "good old days" p[retty well all the Left saw global capitalism as the enemy of the people: the best interests of the one could come only at the expense of the other.

Now, it seems, according at least to the pro-EU Left, the interests of the former enemies have merged. When and how did the Left fall in love with capitalism?

Of course, there are still possible conflicts between the perceived interests of the two groups. The difference this time round is, to take an example, that when the "legitimate" aspiration for self-determination appears to be inconvenient to Honda's supply chain, it's "the people" who need to back down.
If they were shutting Swindon and moving that facility to some other country that's staying in the EU or retaining manufacturing in all EU
countries except this one, the OP would have a point. That's my point, as I'm sure you're Ich.

I genuinely don't know the answer to that though.
//If they were shutting Swindon and moving that facility to some other country... in the EU...the OP would have a point//

Indeed. the costs of transport from Japan surely outweighs any tariff benefits Japan may have gained from its recent deal with the EU.

It doesn't have to be a choice between the two. The EU/Japan trade deal probably plays a larger part than Brexit for the Honda decision, and vice versa for Nissan's recent decision to shift investment from its new electric car. There's also recent issues with diesel cars that come into play.

It's therefore too simplistic to either blame Brexit or to dismiss its effect. It makes a mockery of the idea that such a decision, and its implementation, could ever be simple. Membership of the EU has deeply affected every part of the UK's laws, economy, trading relations, justice system, international relations, and so on; no wonder that it is taking so long to sort out, and was always going to.
'aware' was the missing word.
Ha so!
There's also recent issues with diesel cars that come into play.

Also affecting Jaguar Land Rover big time right now.
//It's therefore too simplistic to either blame Brexit or to dismiss its effect//

"Simple" distinction, backed up by emotional appeal, is a rhetorical device used by advocates. Single attribution of all "problems" to a common cause (in this case Brexit) is a device used by propagandists, most noticeably the Reamin camp and its media representatives.
That's also too simplistic, of course: Brexiteers have been far, far too keen to ignore or dismiss even a hint of possible negativity about Brexit, and any attention drawn to it dismissed as "anti-British treachery". Look to your own camp, v-e. If Brexiteers had taken the warnings seriously, as they always deserved to be, then maybe it would have been easier to reach a sensible version of Brexit that satisfied the rational desire to withdraw from the political and judicial ties without at the same time wrecking the economy.

Or you can carry on dismissing everything and act shocked -- shocked -- when such warnings start to come true. Just because the UK's economic future isn't *entirely* shaped by Brexit doesn't mean that it won't have some serious consequences if badly managed.
// The EUSSR could of course do the same deal with us but hey ho it seems they want us under the jackboot in return.//

er hellloooooo we are leaving the EUSSR remember
so they wont be doing us any favours ,,,, duuurrrr
Really not much mileage in hysterically stomping your feet, waving your fists in the air, and turning your face blue by blaming all these economic changes upon Brexit. There are auto-plants closing in the US and Canada also: Nothing to do with Brexit. Brexit has more layers to it than an acre of Spanish onions

21 to 40 of 99rss feed

First Previous 1 2 3 4 5 Next Last

Do you know the answer?

How Can This Be Glibly Dismissed As Project Fear - It's Happening Now Thanks To Brexit.

Answer Question >>

Related Questions

Sorry, we can't find any related questions. Try using the search bar at the top of the page to search for some keywords, or choose a topic and submit your own question.