Theland

[nailit]

Weve had our spats on here and biblical apologetics has been done to death.

But Im genuinely interested...
When you read the Old Testament, what does your conscience say?
When you read of God ordering killings, war and genocide, when you read of injust laws been implemented and God ordering the execution of rebellious teenagers or women that don't bleed on their wedding night or rape victims having to marry their rapist so that they can be *kept* for the rest of their lives (by their rapist)
Doesn't that repel you in any way?

Just trying to understand the mind of a literalist bible believer.

[Theland]

Wow! A Tsunami of criticisms.
Instead of concentrating on the negatives, why not concentrate on the positives?
And then together we can swap ideas and discover the truth together?

[THECORBYLOON]

Rather than dodge the examples, why not address them?

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Instead of concentrating on the negatives, why not concentrate on the positives? //

Lost of patients thought Harold Shipman was a great GP!

Come on, stop glossing over your God's many many many faults, and answer the question.

[Theland]

Why not address them?
I don't have the answers yet.
I am not a theologian, but a Cnristian.
Given time these things will be addressed.
But what do you want?
Me give up my time to study and produce an answer?
You feel better now for shooting your darts?
Sod off!

[Theland]

Andy - read my posts.

[nailit]

//Wow! A Tsunami of criticisms//
You think that's a Tsunami?
That was a tickle.
We will start with a tickle.

When you are ready that is?
Tsunami might come later

[andy-hughes]

Theland - I do read your posts, and you preach, condescend, revaricate, lecture, and look down on me and others as atheists.

You are the one who sets up your faith as something everyone else needs - so why can't you back it up with the answer to a simple question - without the abuse that is absolutely contrary to your beliefs you claim to live by.

[Baldric]

Theland, for once in your life why not try and answer the questions,
you may even gain a little respect by doing so?

[jno]

God doesn't always behave very well by modern standards; but like many people he relaxes when he becomes a father, and mostly hands the family business over to his son. A lot of non-believers act as if the Bible ends at Malachi; believers on the other hand tend to pay more attention to the New Testament than the Old.

[nailit]

Only posted this less than an hour ago and already 2 answers removed.
Blimey, talk about not mentioning religion or politics?

[nailit]

// A lot of non-believers act as if the Bible ends at Malachi; believers on the other hand tend to pay more attention to the New Testament than the Old.//

A lot of non-believers question the whole bible. Believers on the other hand pay more attention (as you say) on the New testament....and totally ignore the barbarism of the old.

[Theland]

To answer the questions fully would require me to spend hours researching the information, that is there, but complex.
Do you think that is a reasonable demand to make of me?
And then after all of that, you could say, "Yeah
but yeah but yeah but......." And off I go again so no chance.
Do your own research.

[ummmm]

If you'd read the Bible you'd know the answers.

[Old_Geezer]

I'm unsure that's true. I've read loads of books in my life and don't recall all details nor answer all questions on them. But the subject is interesting if one wants to take each question at a time and consider it.

[naomi24]

Again, stumped for an answer, Theland wants others to do their own research.

[spathiphyllum]

Theland has a point in the sense.. everyone's perception on religion is different.. IE, Protestantism and Chatolics even Lutheranism etc.. and many more are all different views on Christianity.

So one religion but many perspectives.

If you want thelands perspective he can give that, but he can't answer questions which could be viewed in many different lights.

[naomi24]

spath, but he isn't giving his perspective. He's dodging the question entirely.

[Old_Geezer]

And even more views that died out as one (set) became orthodox and the rest deemed heretical.

[nailit]

//When you read the Old Testament, what does your conscience say?//

//To answer the questions fully would require me to spend hours researching the information//

Eh?