Another Hillsborough Style Witch Hunt?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271

[retrocop]

Does this help you Spicey?
“Black Protestants”

//The term Black Irish is mostly used today in an Irish context as in “black Protestants” in Northern Ireland to denote those who are especially anti-Catholic still.



Read more: Who were the Black Irish, and what is their story?//

“Black Protestants”

The term Black Irish is mostly used today in an Irish context as in “black Protestants” in Northern Ireland to denote those who are especially anti-Catholic still.



Read more: Who were the Black Irish, and what is their story?
https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/top-ten-truths-and-myths-about-the-black-irish

[ChillDoubt]

Chill ///The soldiers on that day didn’t deliberately set out from barracks with the express purpose of killing someone.///

Col.Wilford defied a senior officer's instructions.I have heard him give several interviews over the years and he is deeply arrogant and dismissive in his attitude.He fails to recognise that any fault lies with his actions on the fateful day.
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I maintain though that he took what he thought was necessary action on that day. Furthermore, as I’ve said the soldiers that day didn’t leave barracks with the express purpose nor instructions to carry out murder, unlike the PIRA/INLA who did so every time they mounted an operation.

[Spicerack]

Cheers, Retro. That makes sense given the circumstances. I shall read the link later.

[agchristie]

//I maintain though that he [Wilford] took what he thought was necessary action on that day. //

Chill,his actions have ultimately resulted in Soldier F facing serious charges.

[chrissa1]

BUT HOW DID THEY FIND SOLDIER “F.”

[agchristie]

Chrissa1,nobody had to find him.He was there.An inquiry was held that lasted an eternity.Evidence is such that it is seen fit to bring charges against him.

[chrissa1]

Thanks, ag.

[ChillDoubt]

Fingers crossed they pursue the Heysel killers and Birmingham pub bombers with the same vigour.

Won’t hold my breath.....

[Peter Pedant]

// Birmingham pub bombers with the same vigour. //
erm .... we have no idea who was responsible for that do we?

[as in - we know the men imprisoned for 15 DIDN'T do it]

whereas on Bloody Sunday there were these men in army uniform ....

did one man manage to shoot four people ? soldier F
one is a mistake - two unfortunate but four - more like a massacre ....

[Peter Pedant]

// Chrissa1,nobody had to find him.He was there.An inquiry was held that lasted an eternity//

and cost £150m

I said - why not give every family involved £10m and a jowly lawyer severely told me that was NOT how things worked at all .....

[ichkeria]

Spicerack:
Assuming you are referring to “Black man”, it’s member of the Royal Black Preceptory whose members are Sir Knights.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Black_Institution

[agchristie]

PP - You forgot to mention The Guildford Four and The Maguire Seven,let alone The Renault Five...

Wasn't this the mad month in '88 too in N.Ireland.I daren't mention Gibraltar Three and Soldiers A,B,C,D,E,F....

[chrissa1]

What about the two off-duty soldiers who blundered into a funeral march, and got beaten and stabbed to death, for no other reason than they were British soldiers??

We lived in Bangor Co Down at the time and I remember it with horror and sadness.

Who is thinking about Their families?

[agchristie]

Chrissa1,that formed one of the three incidents in mad March 88.

The ID was misinterpreted i.e Hereford/Herford...

They didn't deserve their fate but they made a grave miscalculation in being there.

[agchristie]

Chrissa1,convictions were made in that incident but as the book 'Fatal Encounter' demonstrates,there was a strong possibility of a miscarriage of justice too believe it or not.

[ichkeria]

Two people were prosecuted convicted and jailed for that.
It was part of a gruesome chain of events that started with “death on the rock”, which led to the Michael Stone attacks at funerals of those killed, victims of which were in turn being buried that day.
One reason I’m quite glad of “Anthony Blair” and co for helping to stop all that.

[chrissa1]

I must read that book, ag. I remember it so well because on the evening it happened, two neighbours of ours called round to our house to apologise to us, as Brits, for the actions of their countrymen.

My late husband had gone into work on that Saturday between the Falls Road and the Shankhill Road and decided to return home at lunchtime by a different route, thank God.

We talked that evening about how it could have been him.

[agchristie]

Ich,right you are...

It was a crazy month with allegations of 'Shoot to Kill' SAS and who could forget Michael Stone and his later Stormont attack which he claimed was nothing more than 'Performance Art'!!

He would have been lynched at the motorway bordering the Milltown cemetery were it not for the police....

[naomi24]

Who'd join the army? Not me.

[agchristie]

Chrissa1,not an easy book to find,published by Poolbeg but is an excellent read.The author's name eludes me but he worked in Intelligence.