Mi5 Data - Unlawful!

[spathiphyllum]

Oh my! This will stir the pot.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48597111

[ludwig]

I assume the data they're talking about is that which is collected in order to pre-empt and foil terrorist activity, as such it has to relate to innocent people, because they've not committed a crime yet but are seen as possible risks.

Well, what can you do? We either accept that data gathering as a necessary evil and change the law or give up on that kind of preventative approach.

[spathiphyllum]

The law has been changed in the EU recently, under GDPR Legislation.

[Rockrose]

I don't have an issue with data being collected - if you have nothing to hide you don't need to worry

[spathiphyllum]

so you wouldn't mind daily bedroom checks from the police, if it meant we could maybe stop terrorism? You know.. because if you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to worry?

[Sqad]

I agree with Rockrose....my sentiments entirely. ^^^

[spathiphyllum]

The worse part of it all is how they tried to hide their continuation of unlawful data collection from watchdog.

[Rockrose]

OK you are playing that game - can't be bothered - bye bye

[spathiphyllum]

" agree with Rockrose....my sentiments entirely. ^^^"

Then i offer you, the bedroom situation at 16:17.

[spathiphyllum]

"can't be bothered - bye bye"

Ah well, maybe i can get a mature reply, then.

[Sqad]

spath

"so you wouldn't mind daily bedroom checks from the police, if it meant we could maybe stop terrorism?"

You can't have smoke without a fire. It would depend upon with whom I was in bed....;-)

[spathiphyllum]

Sqad, you're right. And if there was smoke, then yes go put out that fire. However, in the case of MI5, the data they're collecting, has no smoke, or fire. It's simply timber waiting to be burned. Not even.. it's still a tree waiting to be turned into timber.

[Rockrose]

Like yours was a mature reply I suppose.
You really are beyond pointless trying to have a debate with! Your arguements are not thought out and are more based around a 12 year old thoughts.

[spathiphyllum]

"Your arguements are not thought out and are more based around a 12 year old thoughts"


You may need to re-phrase that, or are you implying 12 year olds can't think?

[spathiphyllum]

Even if i was 12, RR.. Which for all you know I am.. what away to talk to a child. Woii.

[Rockrose]

You have read 1 article on the data gathering of MI5, I would imagine they gather useless data the same as HMRC does and every other government department.

[mushroom25]

//The law has been changed in the EU recently, under GDPR Legislation//

GDPR contains an exemption (section 2 Article 2) with respect to collection of data in pursuance of criminal matters. however actions under the investigatory powers act aren't always in that category.

in the matter of which law takes precedence, it will need a court case to set that.

[spathiphyllum]

MI5 has a historical lack of compliance with the law though.

[237SJ]

It's not about collecting data - it's about the handling of it after it is no longer needed and in that instance, they have broken the law.

[Rockrose]

Lol if you say so - I would trust MI5 though any day

[spathiphyllum]

I would also trust MI5. However, it doesn't mean they're the best people to uphold and thank. They need to act within the law like everyone else.