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Sir Humphrey Says We Are Ok For No Deal......so Lets Get On With It.
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Instead of hand wringing and allowing the EUSSR to shaft us, should we just accept no deal and prepare for it as best we can in the remaining time?
Instead of hand wringing and allowing the EUSSR to shaft us, should we just accept no deal and prepare for it as best we can in the remaining time?
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You don't need to be a politician, just have a grasp of common sense, to know that the EU were always going to play hard ball from Day One of the negotiators, how could they do any other? To roll over and accept Britain's exit is to start a domino effect which would see the EU collapsing within five years, they were always going to make it as hard as they could to set an...
12:36 Sun 16th Jun 2019
steg - // //The argument that voters were ignorant of any 'deal' when the voted is entirely spurious, and the sort of nonsense the Remainers love to spout. //
That’s not what I said tho is it //
No, it wasn't.
What you said was, if the 'deal' had been sorted out before the referendum, eveyone would be in a better position now.
So your suggested scenario appears to be something like this -
Hello EU? It's UK here, we're thinking about running a 'Leave Or Stay?' style vote past the folks here, we were wondering, would you like to enter into two-and-a-half years of extremely complex and time-consuming negotiations about leaving the EU, costing millions of Euros, and then sort out a deal, and wait and see if our lot actually want to leave or not?
You'd rather have the vote first, because if they vote to stay, the entire process will have been a waste of time and money?
That sounds reasonable. Thanks. Bye.
I trust that lays out the serious flaw in your argument.
That’s not what I said tho is it //
No, it wasn't.
What you said was, if the 'deal' had been sorted out before the referendum, eveyone would be in a better position now.
So your suggested scenario appears to be something like this -
Hello EU? It's UK here, we're thinking about running a 'Leave Or Stay?' style vote past the folks here, we were wondering, would you like to enter into two-and-a-half years of extremely complex and time-consuming negotiations about leaving the EU, costing millions of Euros, and then sort out a deal, and wait and see if our lot actually want to leave or not?
You'd rather have the vote first, because if they vote to stay, the entire process will have been a waste of time and money?
That sounds reasonable. Thanks. Bye.
I trust that lays out the serious flaw in your argument.
The "light bulb" matter was raised by me when constantly pressed for influences that the EU exerts over member nations every day. It was a flippant answer to an irrelevant question.
For the record I decided in 1992 that given the chance I would vote to leave the EU. That was long before alternative forms of household light bulbs became widely available, let alone were made compulsory.
For the record I decided in 1992 that given the chance I would vote to leave the EU. That was long before alternative forms of household light bulbs became widely available, let alone were made compulsory.
o god more argument on the lines of:
must ruin this country because I want filament light bulbs or I want none of the money we sent to the EU (*) to go to the NHS ( or some other damned non sequitur)
(*) getting around the riposte that Boris NEVER said the £350m sent to the EU was gonna be sent instead on the NHS
this HAS to be AB pure and - - - simple
must ruin this country because I want filament light bulbs or I want none of the money we sent to the EU (*) to go to the NHS ( or some other damned non sequitur)
(*) getting around the riposte that Boris NEVER said the £350m sent to the EU was gonna be sent instead on the NHS
this HAS to be AB pure and - - - simple
//So your suggested scenario appears to be something like this -
Hello EU? It's UK here, we're thinking about running a 'Leave Or Stay?' style vote past the folks here, we were wondering, would you like to enter into two-and-a-half years of extremely complex and time-consuming negotiations about leaving the EU, costing millions of Euros, and then sort out a deal, and wait and see if our lot actually want to leave or not?
You'd rather have the vote first, because if they vote to stay, the entire process will have been a waste of time and money?
That sounds reasonable. Thanks. Bye.
I trust that lays out the serious flaw in your argument.//
Ah the good old ‘so’ rule lol
Not really no, because we wouldn’t of known how long it would take or how much it would cost if it was sorted before..
But we are now in a situation.... well I’m sure I don’t need to explain.
Hello EU? It's UK here, we're thinking about running a 'Leave Or Stay?' style vote past the folks here, we were wondering, would you like to enter into two-and-a-half years of extremely complex and time-consuming negotiations about leaving the EU, costing millions of Euros, and then sort out a deal, and wait and see if our lot actually want to leave or not?
You'd rather have the vote first, because if they vote to stay, the entire process will have been a waste of time and money?
That sounds reasonable. Thanks. Bye.
I trust that lays out the serious flaw in your argument.//
Ah the good old ‘so’ rule lol
Not really no, because we wouldn’t of known how long it would take or how much it would cost if it was sorted before..
But we are now in a situation.... well I’m sure I don’t need to explain.
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