Another Looney Decsion...

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-48802167
What now? rip up the tram tracks lest a cyclist gets' it wrong? Madness.

[youngmafbog]

Yup. looks like the end of the line for trams.

Soon we will need a man with a red flag for cars as well since no one seems to have any responsibility for themselves any more.

[Zacs-Master]

Bloody cyclists. PitA.

[youngmafbog]

Assume you think tram lines should be filled in then Zacs?

[jim360]

There are plenty of other ways roads in Edinburgh are rotten for cyclists.

[Zacs-Master]

Why would you assume that? I’m criticising cyclist (and by default the bloody silly judiciary for upholding the decision).

[youngmafbog]

My apologies. Difficult with you as you often write sarcastic comments, especially on TTT's threads.

[Zacs-Master]

Apology accepted. Maybe read my posts without the shoulder chip in future. I do sometimes agree with Tora. We are quite an overlapping Venn diagram, truth be told ;x)

[tara20]

If they're that feckless, they should maybe leave their bikes at home and take the tram!

[Old_Geezer]

Cyclists clearly got friends in high places given it's so dangerous any rational country would ban such behaviour on roads/pavements, but all we see are concessions and allocated road space etc.. So little surprise the next step is to allow them to sue whenever they do something foolish. But as the incident where some moron walked out in front of a bike proves, getting folk in to make illogical decisions can come back and bite you.

[hereIam]

How utterly ridiculous !

[mushroom25]

I think you need to read the judgment - there's more to this than just cyclists "getting it wrong". seems the council (or whoever) created some rather odd intersections for cyclists to have to negotiate....
https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-opinions/2019csoh50.pdf?sfvrsn=0

[Baldric]

If they are typical Lycra Louts they were probably at fault imho, fed up with them down here. ;o)

[hereIam]

^ Ditto !

[Zacs-Master]

Fe up with them in the Yorkshire Dales too. Riding in pelatons and not letting traffic past. Grrrrr.

[mushroom25]

//Fed up with them in the Yorkshire Dales //

not long ago a popular café Dales came on the market and it was bought by a cycling club. whilst officially it was open to all the cyclists very much treated the café as their clubhouse and non cyclists were made to feel most unwelcome. the club were warned their business model wouldn't work; the naysayers were ignored and the café folded. hehehe.....

[Baldric]

Good result ;o)

[Togo]

Have you any idea what that tram system cost? Or how long it took to install. Or how much over budget it went? Or how much longer to complete than was estimated. Eye watering story if you are interested. All driven by the green lobby and the polar bear huggers, who are now being sued en masse by the provisional wing of...…….the polar bear huggers on wobbly wheels.

[Baldric]

You need wobbly wheels to catch a Polar Bear and give it a hug, they are quite quick on their paws.

[Mamyalynne]

It's interesting that no one accepts there may be a fault in design here, one that Cities elsewhere have acknowledged and sought ways to alleviate.

The issue has been known about for years.

https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/transport/cyclists-condemn-dangerous-edinburgh-tram-lines-1-3147144

Would be dreadful to have repeats of results like this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-40105253

[Togo]

Well woo da fort, trams and cycles are not mutually conducive. Of course before the advent of the aggressive bikeist lobby, and the luvvie hand wringer chancers, everybody knew this . I knew it when I was riding my penny farthing. Has anyone told the bikeys that, under no circumstances must you ride into that little steel rut? No? Then whilst you are at it tell em that it is not a good idea to ride on the Railway lines or airport runways either. Maybe it's that after years of having no regard for the safety, or respect, for others and developing an attitude of "it's my right", that they have, as an add on, started to have no regard for their own well being. Or are they, after establishing a precedent, going to start seeking out tramways and having a "traumatic avoidable accident"? You bet they are. The bikeys should be made to have insurance just like all the other road uses. Especially personal injury insurance and given my way I would make them carry public liability insurance just like the geezer who cleans your windows. Further to that, I would ban cyclists, on pain of imprisonment of flogging, from biking within 10ft of a tramway.