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Brit's Behaviour Abroard.

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anotheoldgit | 09:49 Sun 28th Jul 2019 | News
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7292241/Violence-high-seas-clown-sparks-mass-brawl-aboard-P-O-cruise-liner-Britannia.html

Whilst not condoning this behaviour by a certain few, LBC radio decided to make this a news subject for their phone in.

Having listened to this I was surprised at the way this behaviour was criticised as being part of our British (but mainly English) behaviour when we are abroad.
Two callers one a Black male and an Asian lady, who I suppose would demand that they were British born and bred, were amongst those who slagged off 'The Brit's' culture.

The Asian Lady criticised the way British women dressed when they were abroad, with their skimpy attire and tattooed arms. Whilst the Black fellow chose to link 'The Brit's' aggressive behaviour back to the days of our Empire.

Why is this sort of criticism of our behaviour and culture allowed, yet if we criticise other's cultures and their behaviour, we are classed as being racist? Indeed it would never be allowed to be the subject for a radio phone in.

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/// what was considered offensive was the short version of,
Western Oriental Gentelman ///

I think you will find that abbreviation stood for 'Workers on Government Service'.
I don't think it's all that difficult to tell a person's nationality by their accent.
I dislike the term 'Brits'. However if we are allowed to use it then why not Pak*? It's only a shortened version of Pakistani . Why is it considered offensive?
Because P*** is used in an insulting hate filled manner the same as W*** and N******
I know someone who thinks it’s acceptable language and uses that and p**** all the time
I think you'll find that both explanations of the supposed abbreviation are back-formations.
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//They seem to lose their self respect when on holiday//

This chap didn’t seem to have much self-respect last week:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-whips-vest-hot-train-18776275

But having no self-respect is one thing. Having no respect for your fellow travellers, one of whom may shortly be sitting on the very seat his sweaty torso had vacated, is quite another.

//When people blame *the brits* for unsociable behaviour abroad ,would it be more accurate to say English .?//

No it wouldn’t. There are only more English involved in these unsavoury incidents because they outnumber those from other parts of the United Kingdom by about six to one (a fact often overlooked when matters which affect the entire UK are discussed). Proportionately I imagine those from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are just as well represented.

As already mentioned, the problem with “trouble abroad” is that foreign travel has been made affordable to the Great Unwashed. There’s nothing like rationing products by price to make them more exclusive and less prone to (though not entirely immune from) behaviour such as this.
‘There’s nothing like rationing products by price to make them more exclusive‘

Holy Jesus. Do people really think this way in 2019?
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//Holy Jesus. Do people really think this way in 2019?//

Yes I do. I thought that way twenty years ago and will think that way for as far into the future as I can foresee.

Many people don't know how to behave themselves. Rationing something like travel by price will not keep the well off who misbehave away from it. But since there are fewer well off people than those less well off it follows that fewer people who misbehave will be involved.
Why would someone being dressed as a clown lead to a mass brawl?
So answer my questions then, seeing as I have your attention:
Why would someone black or assign demand to be seen as British? 1. Why have you assumed they weren’t?
2. Why, if they weren’t, would they demand to be seen as British.

Unless you can convince me otherwise, my points about your agenda and argument remain.
//Why would someone being dressed as a clown lead to a mass brawl?//

More pertinently, why would someone on a cruise dress as a clown?
Well ,if we are to cut down on air pollution then what you say NJ might come true before long. Prices will go sky high !
That’s an appallingly elitist attitude, NJ. One that I hoped had died out, yet here you are still believing in keeping certain privileges for the wealthy. Maybe time to day a new bowler, don the old pinstripe suite and join the other 1950s chaps down the club, what!
Regardless of the reason for being dressed as a clown, what justification is there for the reaction?
P&O are saying there wasn't anyone dressed as a clown on board. Sounds like it was just another case of too much booze.
Rationing or hiked prices, only increases theft and crime/ black market. Take the constant increases in tobacco ( not that it affects me) more theft from shops, black market, and believe it or not poverty in lots of cases, due to the addiction, there will buy cigs before food for their kids.
There are a type of Brits that go to specific destinations that are set up to attract them to get their money pouring into the bars. Places in Ibiza, Majorca, mainland Spain, Portugals Algarve, etc. etc. The majority of British avoid these places. The majority of British holidaymakers are not hooligans. The countries that now complain have only themselves to blame. They wanted the money and provided just what the hooligans want.
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/// More pertinently, why would someone on a cruise dress as a clown? ///

Apparently it was reported that it was a 'patriotic' event, perhaps the person who dressed as a clown, was taking the 'mick'.
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