Brit's Behaviour Abroard.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7292241/Violence-high-seas-clown-sparks-mass-brawl-aboard-P-O-cruise-liner-Britannia.html

Whilst not condoning this behaviour by a certain few, LBC radio decided to make this a news subject for their phone in.

Having listened to this I was surprised at the way this behaviour was criticised as being part of our British (but mainly English) behaviour when we are abroad.
Two callers one a Black male and an Asian lady, who I suppose would demand that they were British born and bred, were amongst those who slagged off 'The Brit's' culture.

The Asian Lady criticised the way British women dressed when they were abroad, with their skimpy attire and tattooed arms. Whilst the Black fellow chose to link 'The Brit's' aggressive behaviour back to the days of our Empire.

Why is this sort of criticism of our behaviour and culture allowed, yet if we criticise other's cultures and their behaviour, we are classed as being racist? Indeed it would never be allowed to be the subject for a radio phone in.

[teacake44]

I agree NM, when is a pub/ bar, not a pup/bar, when its not selling enough booze, but adults should, but don't always know when to stop drinking, and go home, and its much the same now in the UK.

[anotheoldgit]

Why all this concern over how Brits act abroad.

When what we should really be focusing on is how certain so called Brits act in our own country?

[THECORBYLOON]

I suppose some folk would see allowing hoi polloi to mix with decent folk is asking for trouble.

[New Judge]

//That’s an appallingly elitist attitude, NJ.//

It's no more "elitist" than paying to have your children educated privately because you want them to learn in an atmosphere that is not dominated by disruptive elements. Some parents do that at great sacrifice, not because they are wealthy. Holidays are the same. You get what you pay for.

[THECORBYLOON]

Who are the "certain so called Brits" in this country, ANOTHEOLDGIT?

[anotheoldgit]

Now waits for the cries of "what do you mean so called Brits," some have been born here?

I think that will answer the question which Zacs is demanding that I answer.

[THECORBYLOON]

How does that answer ZACS' question? You have no idea where the two callers were born yet you say they would demand to be called British.

Do you not think that is being prejudiced?

[Ellipsis]

> Having listened to this I was surprised at the way this behaviour was criticised as being part of our British (but mainly English) behaviour when we are abroad. Two callers one a Black male and an Asian lady ...

There were more callers than that, so why would AOG focus on these two I wonder ...

What's this post about, the behaviour of a couple of Chigwell residents on a cruise ship or the right on non-whites to comment on it when asked?

[Ellipsis]

right of*

[Rockrose]

Hmm give you 3 guesses but I bet you get it first time Ellipses

[Zacs-Master]

NJ, so you admit that pricing holidays out of most people’s reach may not preclude the lower orders whom you see as a disruptive influence, because they may save up to go on them anyway?

And, presumably, you don’t see this as more evidence of your elitist attitude as well.

[Togo]

Talking of "Brits" abroad. Did you read about the "British woman" that accused 12 Israelis of gang rape in Ayia Napa Cyprus? The Israelis have all just been released and the "British woman" charged with making a false allegation. No name has yet been divulged.

[New Judge]

//NJ, so you admit that pricing holidays out of most people’s reach may not preclude the lower orders whom you see as a disruptive influence, because they may save up to go on them anyway?//

Yes of course that's a possibility. The probability, though, is that those who afford such a holiday by sacrifice and saving are more likely to appreciate it than if the same holiday was affordable out of their normal spending money. As with private education, it does not eliminate the risk of disruption entirely- nothing can. But it can reduce it. Of course it could be argued that those making sacrifices will make the most of it and get hammered senseless every day. But I doubt it.

[Zacs-Master]

I think we’re entering fantasy land. (Wonder how much a pint of lager is there?).

[maggiebee]

I have only witnessed bad behaviour abroad on one occasion and that was in Germany. We were going to a "village party" and got chatting to a young couple, probably in their 20s. They were friendly and chatty and we enjoyed their company on the way to the village. However, on the way home their behaviour had completely changed, probably due to the amount of alcohol consumed. Loud and obnoxious and bragging about the glasses etc they had stolen from the hotel we were in. Quite sad really as I don't think this would have been their normal behaviour.

[bednobs]

if as you say, they were british born and bred, they were critcising their own culture

[THECORBYLOON]

Are there not white English/British folk who are critical of the behaviour seen on the ship?

[Zacs-Master]

You’ve got to laugh at the perversity of someone posting about brits behaving badly abroad who then writes, on his own thread! ‘Author Why all this concern over how Brits act abroad’

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, do you ever try to 'phone LBC to join in the debates?