mozz: "Just a question TTT. If Boris could negotiate a deal that would benefit both the EUSSR and the UK, would you prefer that to a No Deal, or would you rather have a No Deal, purely so the EU don't benefit, even if it puts the UK on shakier ground? " - that's a big IF but yes. The reason I push for no deal is that the EUSSR will never agree to anything so useful so I'd be wary of any deal they offer because their motives are not the same as ours. They want to heap humiliation on us with the aid of their 5th column collaborators to deter other states from attempting what we are. The only safe clean way is no deal and firefight the issues. We can start negotiating for real with anyone, even the EUSSR on 1st Nov, no deal is the only "deal" that means we can actually do a deal.