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Nigel As Eu Commissioner?
I think this threat may do it!
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Bizarrely worded article:
“Johnson’s new Deal”
??
Who’s he done a deal with?
Have we missed something?
The proposals I cannot see have been “welcomed” anywhere. And in NI all the political parties bar the DUP, even the other main unionist party, have looked on in horror.
All I think part of the plan to appear reasonable so the other side can get the blame.
Can’t see Farage agreeing to be an EU commissioner: he’ll be wanting to lead the Brexit Party in an election where Johnson has failed to “do or die”
Though I am sure the Tories would love to get him out of the way. His is just a name tossed around in desperation
“Johnson’s new Deal”
??
Who’s he done a deal with?
Have we missed something?
The proposals I cannot see have been “welcomed” anywhere. And in NI all the political parties bar the DUP, even the other main unionist party, have looked on in horror.
All I think part of the plan to appear reasonable so the other side can get the blame.
Can’t see Farage agreeing to be an EU commissioner: he’ll be wanting to lead the Brexit Party in an election where Johnson has failed to “do or die”
Though I am sure the Tories would love to get him out of the way. His is just a name tossed around in desperation
The border “solution” as I understand it is a joke: it imposes effectively two borders, and customs checks on the Irish mainland, which previously were a no-no, proposes technical solutions which don’t currently exist and which the EU would be expected to sign up to blind, and introduces the principle of rolling consent on a 4-yearly basis by the NI assembly - not actually sitting at the moment for a start and with seemingly no prospect of it doing so for the foreseeable future. The DUP like it I suspect because they think it gives them a veto, especially if the principle of bipartisan agreement in the assembly is abandoned. And because I also suspect they’d be quite happy, actually, to see a hard border return eventually.
What I have never understood here is: what is the problem with the principle of the backstop if one is confident that one won’t be needed when the time comes anyway!
We had Merkel’s 30 day challenge which of course came and went unmet with barely a word.
One is tempted to use the word: “humbug”
What I have never understood here is: what is the problem with the principle of the backstop if one is confident that one won’t be needed when the time comes anyway!
We had Merkel’s 30 day challenge which of course came and went unmet with barely a word.
One is tempted to use the word: “humbug”
It leaves the road through the border free, thus satisfying the GF agreement, and lets the EU perform whatever checks it demands at the destination. Either for everything or random checks or whatever takes their fancy. Hardly a joke.
As for the veto thing, it's up to the NI assembly to sort their rules out. If they like the veto, then so be it.
The problem of the backstop is not only does it effectively keeps us in the EU, which is an epic fail, it takes away our decision to leave. Quite an achievement as far as anti-Brexit deals go. Boris' plan is far from perfect due to practical difficulties with the EU, but miles better than any backstop.
As for the veto thing, it's up to the NI assembly to sort their rules out. If they like the veto, then so be it.
The problem of the backstop is not only does it effectively keeps us in the EU, which is an epic fail, it takes away our decision to leave. Quite an achievement as far as anti-Brexit deals go. Boris' plan is far from perfect due to practical difficulties with the EU, but miles better than any backstop.
"The other side has the blame anyway. It's been clear for ages that they have no intention of trying to find a way to work their issue out."
the only "deal" the eussr has ever wanted from the day we voted out is one whereby they still keep us under some sort of control, making it a lot easier to get us totally under their jackboots at a later date
the only "deal" the eussr has ever wanted from the day we voted out is one whereby they still keep us under some sort of control, making it a lot easier to get us totally under their jackboots at a later date
One problem with this plan is that the rest of the European Commission will have been ratified by the European Parliament so MEPs would have a clear vote on whether to approve the UK’s nominee. Given Farage’s two decades of causing trouble in Brussels MEPs are highly unlikely to wave him through as a commissioner.
A destination is usually the place you are at, at the end of the ride. https:/
There was talk that the government might force the UK’s expulsion from the EU simply by failing to appoint a commissioner at all, until it transpired that in any case the EU could continue to function without all it’s commissioners. That is covered in the link but is I believe a spurious assumption.
I can’t really see what the point would be in appointing Farage in particular: the govt just appoint anyone who would veto the budget.
But it’s generally assumed that the EU will jettison the UK in any case before any new budget is passed.
I think June was mentioned.
I can’t really see what the point would be in appointing Farage in particular: the govt just appoint anyone who would veto the budget.
But it’s generally assumed that the EU will jettison the UK in any case before any new budget is passed.
I think June was mentioned.
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