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spathiphyllum | 08:54 Thu 10th Oct 2019 | News
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Ahh it all makes sense now! The sadism of the met. Vile. I can not believe the off duty cop isn't facing retribution. Reasonable force? Pffft. What kind of example does this set! Absolutely vile.

https://news.yahoo.com/man-headbutted-passenger-train-police-officer-122338091.html
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As has been said the guy was already restrained If this copper is willing to head butt the guy in full glare of the public ; when any threat was already neutralised ;i wonder what he is prepared to do to other people , when there is no one around in a non life threatening situation . Whatever you think of the guy is irrelevant in the circumstances I certainly wouldn't...
12:30 Thu 10th Oct 2019
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Would you have been one to cheer at the headbutt also, Naomi? Or let out a sigh of shock.
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Would the elderly have been treat this way? Would a young British person been treat this way?

Why was this man treat this way?
All's well that ends well Spath.

//The kind to have probably shot a few black people in america and allowed the situation to be swept under the carpet.//

//needed to deliver a potential fatal blow to the face with hit head//

You have a vivid imagination running through your head and only saw 2mins or so of an incident that was running long before what you think you saw.
I wonder what the off duty copper had running through his head at the time.
I am sure he may of thought this unstable swarthy looking guy who is running amok threatening violence may have a suicide vest with a detonator cord in his hand. It happens on underground trains in London.
The copper could have run to the next carriage and read the paper or he could ensure the safety of his fellow passengers.
Sometimes you have to think outside the box and think ,quickly, on your feet.
God forbid he had a suicide vest. You would be calling the copper a hero but then again,maybe not.
You see spath we can all make wild assumptions especially when you were not in the carriage. Keep on howling at the moon.
If, as is reported, the man had been aggressive and threatening to stab people, I have zero sympathy with him and I'm glad the Met took no further action against the headbutter.
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Also would evacuating the carriage not be a priority? you know suspected suicide vests and knifes.. Whilst the man is pushed up against the wall for 5 minutes you could be the hero you are and get everyone to a save distance!

Obviously terrorism was not a suspected factor here. and if it was, how the situation was dealt with was not OK. It didn't shut the man up either, he was still shouting about himself as he was arrested at the station.

If you headbutted him, what's to stop him letting go of that detonator button and blowing the carriage sky high?

Think again Mr. plod! Failed - 100 civies dead.
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Seems i'm not allowed to discuss this with you retro because you were part of the Met so i can't discuss any of this with you in case you take it personally and my answers get removed! Shame really.
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To be fair though from the example in the vid met police do have a short trigger ;) best i stop before you headbutt me.
No-one likes being headbutted by policemen Spath, least of all me. That's why I have policy in place to minimise the possibility of that ever happening.

Item 1 on that policy says 'Never get on a crowded train and start pushing people around and threatening to stab them'.

I never have, and so far it's worked perfectly. If only this bloke had known about it too, his nose might have still been alright.
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I understand that.

It's just a bit sicking that this behaviour has not only gone unpunished but it's actually been supported by The Met’s Directorate of Professional Standards.

This supports the act of headbutting people who are cornered by three men restrained in a corner.

That means it could happen to me, you, your parents, grandparents, brothers , sisters, partners, children if they become a bit drunk or have a scuffle on a train then complain about being pushed up against the carriage door. Because that's why he got headbutted, because he was shouting and wriggling whilst being pushed up against the wall. He did not get headbutted for threatening to stab people.. That couldn't be clearer.
Apart from having an obvious pop and winding yourself up I am intrigued to learn why you thought it necessary to start another thread on this incident. It is Thursday 10/10/2019 today and the other thread was last week.Have you forgotten already. You featured your rants on that one as well. Why duplicate? Has there been any further developments we should learn about.
The Police Independent Complaints Committee have investigated and decided there is no case or reason to send it to the CPS. I am sure they are more cognizant of all the facts than you are . After all there were a carriageful of witnesses who had been threatened with assault. Don't you think they may of been interviewed.?
Of course. If the person who was subsequently arrested for carrying a knife and suspected of carrying stolen property by finding has some grievance then it is for him to take out a private prosecution. I azm sure he would get legal aid.
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"Has there been any further developments we should learn about."

Yeah the oaf that decided it was appropriate to connect the top of his head to a chaps nose was an under cover police officer for the met.
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Retro he wans't carrying a knife. As a cop surely you can decipher that? LOL!

He was arrested for suspectidly carrying a knife, because he said he'd stab people. So they arrested him for potentially having a knife.

No where, at all, has it said he was caRrying a knife. It's implied the complete opposite in fact.
Retro - he has a cold, he's not well.
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"Has there been any further developments we should learn about."

//Yeah the oaf that decided it was appropriate to connect the top of his head to a chaps nose was an under cover police officer for the met.//

That is not a new development Spath. You really are getting over excited aren't you?
I believe it was me who reported that the headbutter was a Police officer in the previous thread. Have you forgotten already?
Spath, //was an undercover police officer//
That as 6 days ago:-

https://metro.co.uk › News › UK
6 days ago - A Metropolitan Police officer headbutted a commuter on a C2C train
Aaaah Bless. Thanks ummmm.

//Retro - he has a cold, he's not well. //

I think some of us already realised that. :-)
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Retro I'm not here to discuss AB protocol, duplicate threads and proceedings.

My thread is what it is. It is different to the other one that was posted almost a week ago, by another ABer.

You are in support of the barbarianism displayed in the picture. No surprise there i bet you had the same training. They've probs kept it the same since 409 BC
Well retrocop @ 12.29 I couldn't have put it better myself if I'd even tried. Some folk have just not got a clue as to what policing central London is like, or anywhere else for that matter, especially viewing a situation from the comfort of their home, and relying on what the press say, along with video junkies. You have to chuckle :0)
//You are in support of the barbarianism displayed in the picture. No surprise there i bet you had the same training. They've probs kept it the same since 409 BC //

More wild accusations and stupid assumptions. You really should get yourself back to bed. Seems like ague to me. :-(

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