Strands#265 Did You Hear That?
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Nicola Sturgeon Says Independence Is In Reach For Scotland
Is this something she strives for and is a personal goal or do the Scots wish to break away from the Union ,we have I’m sure,many Scottish people on AB, I wonder what their thoughts are about ‘going it alone’
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why on earth anyone would want to vote for a party who increased level of income tax to higher than the rest of the UK beats me. Her and Salmond once said vote for us and we'll get rid of council tax. Well, they were voted in an you'll never guess, wait for it, they didn't. Shock, horror. A year after minimum price for alcohol was introduced, did they brag about how...
20:21 Tue 05th Nov 2019
"One of the problems with the English posters on this site is that they don't seem to grasp that the whole raison d'etre for the SNP is independence"
A lot of rUK fully support the SNP and wish the majority of Scots would man up, have the courage of the convictions they so vehemently express in Westminster & Edinburgh elections, take the plunge & get the hell out!
A lot of rUK fully support the SNP and wish the majority of Scots would man up, have the courage of the convictions they so vehemently express in Westminster & Edinburgh elections, take the plunge & get the hell out!
"One of the problems with the English posters on this site is that they don't seem to grasp that the whole raison d'etre for the SNP is independence"
It can't be the way all Scots think of the party, it's clearly more complex than that. Otherwise there wouldn't be the contrast between the number of SNP candidates that get elected, and the rejection of independence in the referendum. It simply doesn't follow.
I'd suggest the best interpretation is that a portion of the public see the party as a way to put Scottish interests over that of the rest of the nation, without the need for the disadvantages of independence.
It can't be the way all Scots think of the party, it's clearly more complex than that. Otherwise there wouldn't be the contrast between the number of SNP candidates that get elected, and the rejection of independence in the referendum. It simply doesn't follow.
I'd suggest the best interpretation is that a portion of the public see the party as a way to put Scottish interests over that of the rest of the nation, without the need for the disadvantages of independence.
//I always think it’s best to leave these type of questions to people who DONT live in Scotland, their perception is amazing. Carry on folks !!!!//
People who don’t live in Scotland should be listened to, Anne, because “he who pays the piper calls the tune” (or at least should do so). And the piper is very much English.
Personally I have no views on Scottish independence. I think they would be foolish to break away because their income will have to come from somewhere else upon whom they will become er… dependant. If they believe that becoming a member of the EU (which is by no means guaranteed and in any case will take years to achieve) will satisfy their quest for autonomy then they are more deluded than they appear. However if the SNP achieves its aim there will be two big advantages for the rest of us: firstly, Ms Sturgeon will no longer be on the telly spouting her drivel; secondly the UK Parliament will no longer have 9% of its seats (and possibly the balance of power) held by a party that has no interest in the wellbeing of the rest of the UK (which contains 92% of the population) whatsoever.
People who don’t live in Scotland should be listened to, Anne, because “he who pays the piper calls the tune” (or at least should do so). And the piper is very much English.
Personally I have no views on Scottish independence. I think they would be foolish to break away because their income will have to come from somewhere else upon whom they will become er… dependant. If they believe that becoming a member of the EU (which is by no means guaranteed and in any case will take years to achieve) will satisfy their quest for autonomy then they are more deluded than they appear. However if the SNP achieves its aim there will be two big advantages for the rest of us: firstly, Ms Sturgeon will no longer be on the telly spouting her drivel; secondly the UK Parliament will no longer have 9% of its seats (and possibly the balance of power) held by a party that has no interest in the wellbeing of the rest of the UK (which contains 92% of the population) whatsoever.
Insert the word "strong", steg. In a nutshell I couldn't care less what they do. My concern is that I wish they'd get on and do it because it's very tiresome that the views of less than half of 9% of the population makes so much news. Especially when the views of 52% of the entire population are seemingly dismissed by that same small minority.
//My concern is that I wish they'd get on and do it because it's very tiresome that the views of less than half of 9% of the population makes so much news. Especially when the views of 52% of the entire population are seemingly dismissed by that same small minority.//
Surely that’s not the fault of the less than half the nine % or even the SNP tho, it’s not them writing the stuff it’s the unionist supporting media.
Surely that’s not the fault of the less than half the nine % or even the SNP tho, it’s not them writing the stuff it’s the unionist supporting media.
When the "Better together" campaign was opened by Alistair Darling he made a statement in the first paragraph that "..of course Scotland could survive on its own..." or words to that effect (I am too lazy to look up the exact wording). By those who resist going along with the classical refrain, that Scotland is being subsidised by England, that Scots are hopelessly inept/incompetent, etc. it is self evident that Scotland could survive as well in independence as it now does within the Union. There is a fairly lengthy list of countries which suggests that Scotland should be able to do better than it does at present, assuming they are indeed not inept/incompetent, because so many countries of a similar population size, having similar resources and location do so much better than the UK. As things stand, by virtue of being in the Union Scotland will never do better than the UK - by virtue of the numbers England will always dominate and it follows that it might be argued that English ways are a drag on Scottish potential.
The unbecoming suggestion that independence for Scotland as a concept is the private reserve of Nicola Sturgeon is obvious nonsense. The 2014 referendum showed very clearly that not only was independence then an attractive prospect for nearly half of those who voted but also that the very real prospect just before the day that the result might be "Yes" terrified the establishment south of the border. An entire trainload of functionaries was commissioned and despatched forth to try and dissuade Scots by playing up horrors in prospect and extol the promises if only they would vote No. That was when (for the first time ?) the label of Project Fear was applied to these tactics.
There is some evidence that increasing numbers of Scots see less and less virtue in maintaining the Union and that in turn indicates a decreasing fear of doom if Scotland were simply to choose a situation where Westminster no longer matters. Many of these people will be aware of the sentiments offered south of the border, sentiments regularly/often quite clearly expressed on Answerbank.
The unbecoming suggestion that independence for Scotland as a concept is the private reserve of Nicola Sturgeon is obvious nonsense. The 2014 referendum showed very clearly that not only was independence then an attractive prospect for nearly half of those who voted but also that the very real prospect just before the day that the result might be "Yes" terrified the establishment south of the border. An entire trainload of functionaries was commissioned and despatched forth to try and dissuade Scots by playing up horrors in prospect and extol the promises if only they would vote No. That was when (for the first time ?) the label of Project Fear was applied to these tactics.
There is some evidence that increasing numbers of Scots see less and less virtue in maintaining the Union and that in turn indicates a decreasing fear of doom if Scotland were simply to choose a situation where Westminster no longer matters. Many of these people will be aware of the sentiments offered south of the border, sentiments regularly/often quite clearly expressed on Answerbank.
//It can't be the way all Scots think of the party, it's clearly more complex than that. Otherwise there wouldn't be the contrast between the number of SNP candidates that get elected, and the rejection of independence in the referendum. It simply doesn't follow. //
45% of voters voted for independence, the SNP should get around about 40-45% of vote in the election
It looks quite simple to me
45% of voters voted for independence, the SNP should get around about 40-45% of vote in the election
It looks quite simple to me
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