Khandro I certainly don't make things up, but like most of us I only know what I read in the papers or watch on the news and I appreciate we shouldn't believe everything we read in the newspapers, But the only people who do know the truth are the people involved or if we see video evidence which we can't deny. The truth might come out one day and believe me, if I'm wrong, I will hold my hands up and apologise. I'm leaving this thread now as I think enough has been said on the subject.