Saudi Pilot Called Us 'nation Of Evil' Before Shooting Spree At Florida Airbase

[naomi24]

//A Saudi pilot who killed three people on a US airbase in Florida had called America a "nation of evil" and quoted Osama bin Laden in social media posts hours before opening fire, according to an extremism monitoring group.

The killer, a member of the Royal Saudi Air Force who had been training at the Pensacola airbase, was shot dead by a sheriff's deputy.

He has not been formally identified, although Reuters quoted two unnamed officials as saying he was Second Lieutenant Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani.

The SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks Islamist extremism online, said that he had posted on Twitter about US wars in the Middle East shortly before the shootings.

Police have said they are investigating whether the attack was terror-related...//

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/saudi-pilot-florida-airbase-mass-shooting-osama-bin-laden-pensacola-mohammed-saeed-alshamrani-a9237406.html

What's to investigate?

[emmie]

i guess they have to go through the motions..

[fender62]

and they say diversity is our strength..tell that to the victims relatives.

[retrocop]

It is a crying shame that Countries in the Western world appear to be so reliant on Gulf state moola. We are training these people to be our likely enemies. Tony Blair opened the door for Syria to train their officers at Sandhurst. Now Syria is a pariah state. The same as Gadaffi and Libya.
Like most property, hotels etc, in the UK, the Saudi's have almost bought Sandhurst. Mons Hall and other buildings on the Sandhurst estate have been renamed in gratitude to their Arab sponsors.
I recall a shocking incident whereby Middle East military Officer students ran amok in a English shire raping and sexually assaulting any female they could find.
These people belong in the stone age and only survive because of oil wealth.
The West train these people to use modern sophisticated weapons and it will,eventually come back to bite them.

A long but interesting report, imo, on how Sandhurst is financed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28896860

[david small]

As long as we worship mammon, we shall forfeit our integrity.

[CrapAtCryptics]

he was well vetted for the course - not

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // These people belong in the stone age and only survive because of oil wealth. //

No danger of cultural stereotyping there then!

I mean, you wouldn't want to join the late pilot trainee's mindset, in assuming that every member of a race other than yours is inherently inferior, would you?

[Theland]

Only when we are ankle deep in blood will we have any hope of our politicians waking up to the actual cause of it all.

[EDDIE51]

They still need to find out who his contacts were and try to prevent more attacks ! Was he a 'Lone Wolf' or part of a Group ? For example.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Only when we are ankle deep in blood will we have any hope of our politicians waking up to the actual cause of it all. //

We know the cause of it all - insane individuals using the pretence of a faith to murder innocent strangers.

Of course, their perception of the West has not been assisted by the West's insistence on invading Muslim countries in order to force the West's interpretation of 'freedom' on them.

That does not excuse the insane behaviour, but neither does it assist the West in avoiding some responsibility for the hostile reactions encouraged in said insane people by its fondness for using military force to try (and often fail!) to change national attitudes

[Peter Pedant]

erm I think the deterrent worked here
he wont do it again
but hey there is lots and lots of overtime ( surely not, surely not) investigating his contacts and antecdents - this is an emegency and may happen again

and thus we are protected


in terms of americans killed, this is peanuts innit?

[Zacs-Master]

Strange use of the term 'us' in the OP.

[EDDIE51]

What's to investigate, is to find out how & why and how a person with such previously known, extremist views and terrorist contacts was able to join the Air Force and train as a pilot , flying one of the World's most formidable combat aircraft !!
WHAT WAS THE CIA & FBI DOING !!!!
Heads must roll !!!
All US military personnel are supposed to be fully 'vetted' for such contacts before even being allowed to start flight training !!!

[jourdain2]

Z-M I think it was supposed to read U.S..

[THECORBYLOON]

ZACS, consecutive Capitals don't appear correctly in Question titles so US appears as "Us".

[ummmm]

Not much to investigate.

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - // Not much to investigate. //

I would disagree.

Vetting procedures, for a start, need to be very thoroughly investigated, as does the background of this individual to ascertain if he acted alone, or was, and still is, part of a larger plot to wreak havoc and death on Western targets.

[Theland]

Andy - It may well be a partial failure of the Wests foreign policy, but too late to do anything about that now.
Our reality is to recognise where the threats to us are coming from.

[ummmm]

I meant for his reasons.

My OH once worked on an RAF base. The forms we had to fill in were very very detailed. They even wanted your parents and siblings details. Every arrest, even if you weren't convicted, had to be declared.

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy - It may well be a partial failure of the Wests foreign policy, but too late to do anything about that now. //

Actually, it's not.

The U.S. could have, and should have learned the lessons from its spanking in Viet Nam where its utter contemptable arrogance that it's own version of political choice should be forced on another nation was roundly dismissed, at the cost of millions of lives, when its high-tech hardware proved no match for an indigenous population who wanted nothing more than a bowl of rice a day, some rubber shoes, and the right to choose its own governance style.

Of course history can teach us lessons, but rarely ever does so, and when the Russian army, the biggest in the world, singularly failed to bring that Afghan nation into line with its leaders' thinking, the US imagined it would succeed where Russia failed, for reasons thus far unexplained beyond its need to poke its military nose in simply because it can.

[Theland]

The biggest threat to us now is Islam. Within our own borders.